[News] Waiver Wire Oct 2 - Prosvetov, Kerins clear. Avs claim Solovyov

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Sample00

Forgive me for chiming in here but I am a little frustrated when people call out professional athletes as "garbage".

Ok, maybe the player isnt up to NHL or highest level professional sport status but calling them names like that is just not acceptable in my mind.

These are people, human beings and they deserve to be treated with a certain amount of respect.

It truly bugs me when they get treated with such disrespect.

My two cents.

Originally Posted by GullFoss

This is one of the most respectful posts in CP in upwards of a decade. Way to class the place up.

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Good post. Guy might be just outside of the top 200 defencemen worldwide (8.2 billion people) and people resort to saying stuff like that.

Good on Sample00 for wanting to put aside language like that but who are you fooling with the virtue signalling? Yourself?

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post9086352

Garbage reffing again already.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post8638265

Molasses skating, slow processing the game, lack of talent, poor execution, weak goaltending, garbage play in OT, tape to skate passes, lack of discipline, poorly timed mental lapses, posts and crossbars, Kadri, management and coaching misreads, and a crappy locker room.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post8307443

Absolute garbage work by the refs tonight. Refs aren’t betting on games? Lol

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post8144293

Epic garbage from the refs as usual in a battle of Alberta,

Referees are human beings, and they deserve to be treated with a certain amount of respect.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Which of Kadri, Frost or Backlund are you trading to make room for Kerins?

Which of Weegar, Bahl, Pachal, Parekh or Hanley are you trading to make room for Kuznetsov/Solovyov? Probably Hanley is the only one here you could fairly make a case that they could look at, but then eventually once they get the right deal to move Andersson you want Hanley back.

Bahl-Weegar
Hanley-Andersson
Kuznetsov-Pachal/Parekh
Solovyov

Bean and Miromanov could have both been sent down to start the season.

I've said it before but I think it is worth repeating - the expectation for a 19yo D in the NHL is that they play at most half of the season. I think the Sabres are the only team that slot in their young D right away and let them play full seasons before 20.

Parekh may exceed expectations and play the whole season but the expectation should be that he plays about half of the season. He needs to adjust to the speed of the NHL and he needs to try and bulk up a bit this season to avoid getting hurt.

If Huska's handling of Wolf last season was an example then I would expect Parekh to play 2/3 of the games in the first half in a pretty sheltered role and then ramp up after Xmas.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Could see the Oilers claiming Kerins. They’re hurting for NHLers.

He's not old enough.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Good on Sample00 for wanting to put aside language like that but who are you fooling with the virtue signalling? Yourself?

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post9086352


https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post8638265


https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post8307443

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ge#post8144293


Referees are human beings, and they deserve to be treated with a certain amount of respect.

Nice fail, but glad keyword searching gave you something to do.

[NewFan]

Our D group is bottom 10 anyway. And there is nobody who can improve furthermore except Parekh.
I hope our younger guys doesn't stuck developing in AHL.

[flame4life]

Epic fail on the backup goalie ... Cooley is terrible. Worst decision I have seen from Flames management in a while. Better hope they have a plan to get a backup goalie from some other place, but he isn't it. Proz struggled last night, but Cooley was even worse with a 3/7 goals against. I didn't think he was good last year either, despite his early strong performance in the AHL. Proz in the KHL last year was a lot better in my opinion. But once again, no called me for my opinion, so shrug the shoulders and move on.

[Redrum]

Kind of surprised with the goalies. I was really pulling for Cooley but he's a mess right now, and Pros seemed a bit more composed overall.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Not entirely surprised after they gave Cooley a 2 year contract which was 1 way in his second year

I do however think Prosvetov has looked better in the camp sessions and games I have seen

I think he will get some looks this year eventually

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Mangiapane - Ryan - Hathaway is the best 4th line the Flames had in the past 15 years and it was two young guys with a veteran and they didn't get abused by other teams 4th lines at all.

I don't think Pospisil - Kerins - Klapka would either

That line gets caved in all day.

Where is the vet center to stabilize? Before Ryan they had Stajan playing 4C in the same role.

The argument that the Flames have not utilized the 4th line properly is not supported by the facts.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

That line gets caved in all day.

Where is the vet center to stabilize? Before Ryan they had Stajan playing 4C in the same role.

The argument that the Flames has not utilized the 4th line properly is not supported by the facts.

They should have kept Morton up. Not exactly a vet but he appeared competent.

[boogerz]

Conroy got lucky...that's a pretty strong waivers class and Kerins should easily clear. Why claim Kerins when you could also claim Heinen, Puustinen, Kravtsov, or Schwindt for your third or fourth line needs?

Kerins is pretty much a clone of Puustinen, but with less NHL experience.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I guess one thing that continues to irk me about the team is their mystifying attachment to certain mediocre players who cannot be displaced for reasons.

Vegas gets a bad rap from the outside but they're cut throat about icing the best team they can, and no one is safe because of it. They'll make whatever moves they need to accommodate that.

Always earned, never given.

Is there another professional sport where past their prime vets are beloved than NHL hockey? It happens to an extent in the NBA or MLB but at much lower levels and is nonexistent in football where vets are replaced the moment they slip and can be replaced by younger, cheaper players and is probably one of many reasons the NFL is the most popular sport in that the best players always play. It's forever been an NHL problem where coaches know they are hired to be fired and feel more secure with low ceiling/higher floor vets in the bottom six than often more volatile young players. It's not just coaches as GM's also love their veteran pluggers, as Treliving loves himself some expensive veteran depth players.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Is there another professional sport where past their prime vets are beloved than NHL hockey? It happens to an extent in the NBA or MLB but at much lower levels and is nonexistent in football where vets are replaced the moment they slip and can be replaced by younger, cheaper players and is probably one of many reasons the NFL is the most popular sport in that the best players always play. It's forever been an NHL problem where coaches know they are hired to be fired and feel more secure with low ceiling/higher floor vets in the bottom six than often more volatile young players. It's not just coaches as GM's also love their veteran pluggers, as Treliving loves himself some expensive veteran depth players.

I don't think the NFL is a fair comparison at all.
Drafted NFL players enter the league far more ready to play at that level.
And to some extent that is true with the NBA as well, at least for highly drafted guys.
I just don't think these are very valid comparisons.

[Toonage]

Hockey is the sport that hinges most on mistakes and seems to have the most coaching turnover or maybe the quickest. The two seem to go hand in hand. Find players you trust to make fewer mistakes, stay employed longer I guess.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Is there another professional sport where past their prime vets are beloved than NHL hockey? It happens to an extent in the NBA or MLB but at much lower levels and is nonexistent in football where vets are replaced the moment they slip and can be replaced by younger, cheaper players and is probably one of many reasons the NFL is the most popular sport in that the best players always play. It's forever been an NHL problem where coaches know they are hired to be fired and feel more secure with low ceiling/higher floor vets in the bottom six than often more volatile young players. It's not just coaches as GM's also love their veteran pluggers, as Treliving loves himself some expensive veteran depth players.

Well, in the NFL, most contracts aren't fully (or even partially) guaranteed, so if a rookie is even close to as good as a more expensive vet, it saves the team money and cap space to cut the vet.

[Freeway]

Remember the rap song that Houses of Hockey and Down Goes Brown did about the waiver wire years ago? That ruled.

[Eubee]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I thought your post made a lot of sense

PepsiFree can be a very aggressive and a righteous (even though hes often wrong) forum member. Better to just ignore him when he's in that kind of mood (which is often)

In fairness, he is way better on here since I clipped his nuts for being an ass, and he found out that I was 6'6" tall.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Eubee

In fairness, he is way better on here since I clipped his nuts for being an ass, and he found out that I was 6'6" tall.

lol. Why would anyone care how tall you are?

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

He's not old enough of a criminal.

ftfy

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Eubee

In fairness, he is way better on here since I clipped his nuts for being an ass, and he found out that I was 6'6" tall.

As a tall person myself, but not grossly tall like you, do you really think PepsiFree or anyone changed their behaviour once they found out your height?