04-02-2025, 04:40 PM
|
#1161
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
He missed 18 . Played 64. NHL season has 82 games . Need a calculator ?
He played 7 less than Drais and they weren’t hurt at the same time . Is that what you are messing up ? So when McDavid was hurt and missed almost 1/4 of the season Drais won the MVp despite missing 11 games himself .
Maybe learn how to read stats before accusing people of exaggerating ?
|
So he played 7 games without McDavid, its the same point. And was on the ice for more goals against than for.
I've never seen a Flames fan work so hard to defend an Oiler player
__________________
GFG
|
|
|
04-02-2025, 04:51 PM
|
#1162
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
He had 17 points in 5 games vs the Flames lol. Almost a 4PPG that might inflate the numbers, but he did light us up. How did we allow that.
|
|
|
04-02-2025, 04:57 PM
|
#1163
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
He had 17 points in 5 games vs the Flames lol. Almost a 4PPG that might inflate the numbers, but he did light us up. How did we allow that.
|
Tanev hurt, Markstom poo, refs turning every scrum into a 4 on 4
__________________
GFG
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to dino7c For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-02-2025, 05:17 PM
|
#1164
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
He had 17 points in 5 games vs the Flames lol. Almost a 4PPG that might inflate the numbers, but he did light us up. How did we allow that.
|
I mean he is a great player so there is that component to consider. His numbers may be a bit inflated from the Flames series but he still has 108 playoff points in 74 games so he has consistently performed in the playoffs. Last year it is important to remember that he was injured in the Canucks series and his effectiveness was diminished as a result. He benefits from playing with McDavid but he still is an amazing player as well
|
|
|
04-02-2025, 09:27 PM
|
#1165
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
|
Dirty player too.
__________________
Franchise > Team > Player
Future historians will celebrate June 24, 2024 as the date when the timeline corrected itself.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to McG For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-02-2025, 11:09 PM
|
#1166
|
Franchise Player
|
I don't think anyone is suggesting he isn't a good player...taking victory laps before the contract has even started though is Oilery
Big player who has been injured quit a bit in recent years making 14M from 30-38 doesn't age well IMO.
Lucic was never at that level but he was a 60 point +30 power forward and turned into fouth liner within a couple years. Drai has a lot of miles on him already. If someone wants to bump to tell me
I toada so maybe wait a few years.
If he is a 100+ point player at 34-35 and the Oilers have a cup or two I guess you got me, otherwise nope.
__________________
GFG
Last edited by dino7c; 04-02-2025 at 11:11 PM.
|
|
|
04-02-2025, 11:23 PM
|
#1167
|
Celebrated Square Root Day
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
So he played 7 games without McDavid, its the same point. And was on the ice for more goals against than for.
I've never seen a Flames fan work so hard to defend an Oiler player
|
Wait, you're inferring Jason14 isn't a Flames fan? That is R word. Seriously. What is with you, lol.
|
|
|
04-02-2025, 11:25 PM
|
#1168
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Wait, you're inferring Jason14 isn't a Flames fan? That is R word. Seriously. What is with you, lol.
|
Yeah most hardcore Flames fans go out of their way to pump the Oilers
either way the take is poor, Drai and McDAvid played together all but 7 games...Drai didn't "win the MVP without him" maybe he is a Flames fan but he has had some incredibly negative takes lately.
__________________
GFG
Last edited by dino7c; 04-02-2025 at 11:29 PM.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Reggie Dunlop For This Useful Post:
|
|
04-03-2025, 06:18 AM
|
#1170
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
I don't think anyone is suggesting he isn't a good player...taking victory laps before the contract has even started though is Oilery
Big player who has been injured quit a bit in recent years making 14M from 30-38 doesn't age well IMO.
Lucic was never at that level but he was a 60 point +30 power forward and turned into fouth liner within a couple years. Drai has a lot of miles on him already. If someone wants to bump to tell me
I toada so maybe wait a few years.
If he is a 100+ point player at 34-35 and the Oilers have a cup or two I guess you got me, otherwise nope.
|
The guy is an elite player and it's not debatable. He's having a fantastic season in the last year of his current deal and his big raise kicks in next season when he turns 30. Plenty of good seasons left but the returns will be diminishing with age. The Oilers issue is that he's almost 30 and the team hasn't won anything yet and the team is going to get older and worse on paper next season and seasons after while teams like the Avalanche and Stars have younger rosters and won't be going anywhere for a while.
|
|
|
04-03-2025, 07:03 AM
|
#1171
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
I don't think anyone is suggesting he isn't a good player...taking victory laps before the contract has even started though is Oilery
Big player who has been injured quit a bit in recent years making 14M from 30-38 doesn't age well IMO.
Lucic was never at that level but he was a 60 point +30 power forward and turned into fouth liner within a couple years. Drai has a lot of miles on him already. If someone wants to bump to tell me
I toada so maybe wait a few years.
If he is a 100+ point player at 34-35 and the Oilers have a cup or two I guess you got me, otherwise nope.
|
I'm not sure why this is being brought up, maybe next year Oilers fans can bring this up if he is doing what he is doing this year. Even then it's not a steal and it's going to get worse.
Might make more sense to talk about the 3rd place team in a weak division and how it can't get better when his contract kicks in.
They have over $80 mil committed to 10 forwards, 4 d and 2 goalies and haven't signed Bouch Bomb yet.
Cap going way up, some very good teams are going to have way more cap than the Oilers.
LA - $30 mil space and nearly a full roster
Vegas - $22 mil space, need a few depth forwards, but after that they are full and could make a splash
Best case is 3rd again next year.
|
|
|
04-03-2025, 08:24 AM
|
#1172
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
|
nm
__________________
THE SHANTZ WILL RISE AGAIN.
 <-----Check the Badge bitches. You want some Awesome, you come to me!
|
|
|
04-03-2025, 08:37 AM
|
#1173
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Fact: Oleg Saprykin has scored more goals in the Stanley Cup finals than Leon Draisaitl.
Oleg Saprykin has scored one goal in the Stanley Cup finals.
__________________
"I think the eye test is still good, but analytics can sure give you confirmation: what you see...is that what you really believe?"
Scotty Bowman, 0 NHL games played
|
|
|
04-03-2025, 08:38 AM
|
#1174
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
I'm not sure why this is being brought up, maybe next year Oilers fans can bring this up if he is doing what he is doing this year.
|
Oh, I'm sure they will. Just like they keep reminding people how they put the Flames into a rebuild even though not choking to the Oilers doesn't make Salem, New Jersey any closer to Calgary than it is.
|
|
|
04-03-2025, 08:46 AM
|
#1175
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by united
Fact: Oleg Saprykin has scored more goals in the Stanley Cup finals than Leon Draisaitl.
Oleg Saprykin has scored one goal in the Stanley Cup finals.
|
His TOI was significantly smaller too!
|
|
|
09-30-2025, 01:23 PM
|
#1176
|
Powerplay Quarterback
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
I know his new contract starts next year.
He will drop 50 goals next year too.
So many spent all summer arguing with me over this contract but with the cap going up to $110M+ over next few years……this contract is going to be a steal.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Whew thank god you bumped this thread to tell us all how right you were
I can now go to bed
|
Thanks Jiri. I knew I would be proven right all along.
Some silly, silly takes in this thread.
|
|
|
09-30-2025, 02:24 PM
|
#1177
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
|
Shouldn't you be waiting for him to actually play under the new contract before patting yourself on the back?
|
|
|
The Following 19 Users Say Thank You to Erick Estrada For This Useful Post:
|
3thirty,
8sPOT,
BeltlineFan,
burn_this_city,
D as in David,
Enoch Root,
Fighting Banana Slug,
Groot,
jaikorven,
Jay Random,
jayswin,
Jetfire,
PaperBagger'14,
Press Level,
shogged,
The Yen Man,
the2bears,
trackercowe,
You Need a Thneed
|
09-30-2025, 02:25 PM
|
#1178
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Hey look the Oilers fan is back
|
|
|
09-30-2025, 03:01 PM
|
#1179
|
Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
Thanks Jiri. I knew I would be proven right all along.
Some silly, silly takes in this thread.
|
|
|
|
09-30-2025, 03:01 PM
|
#1180
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Republic of Panama
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
Hey look the Oilers fan is back
|
Yup. It must be preseason.
__________________
Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:09 PM.
|
|