2024 PGA Tour thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

Basically the ideal outcome for the day, it was compelling and the Americans didn't win so we didn't have to see them do the Pedo Shuffle afterwards.

[metallicat]

This was the first time I’ve actively cheered for the Europeans, but I’m glad the Americans made it close. I love sports drama and the comeback by the Yanks made for some great drama. I love this tournament.

[Flabbibulin]

Some American bloke at the mic just congratulated the Euros on ‘retaining’ the cup. A slip of tongue or hint that the Americans should have gotten the full pt because of the WD by Hovland?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Europe got to 15, so they can concede the full point for Hovland and still win. And they should now for the lolz.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Europe got to 15, so they can concede the full point for Hovland and still win. And they should now for the lolz.

Yuh, Im bad at maths. Had the americans gotten that full pt, it would still have been 14.5. So the half pt in the final match theoretically eliminates the controversy.

Im a Euro fan all the way and not interested in cheesy sentiment, but the Americans did redeem themselves considerably on the final day.

[WideReceiver]

I have no interest in this but watching some of the obnoxious chanting and cursing at the Europeans but the fans, I desperately want the Euros to win this. If Americans wonder why so much if the world hates their country, this display is why.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

I have no interest in this but watching some of the obnoxious chanting and cursing at the Europeans but the fans, I desperately want the Euros to win this. If Americans wonder why so much if the world hates their country, this display is why.

I agree, but there is a no question the ryder cup being Euro hosted in somewhere like France this year, given the widespread anti-american sentiment, would have been downright dirty.

[DoubleK]

The amount of mansplaining Brandell is doing on Live From is glorious.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Some American bloke at the mic just congratulated the Euros on ‘retaining’ the cup. A slip of tongue or hint that the Americans should have gotten the full pt because of the WD by Hovland?

The Americans only won the 1991 Ryder Cup because of that rule. If they did not have that rule and had the rule the Americans now want that the full point goes to the team that has a player who can play the Europeans would have won the 1991 Ryder Cup. Suspect American commentator memory does not go back that far but they should change the rule for this Ryder cup and retroactively change the rule for that Ryder Cup.

[WideReceiver]

The video of the Euros celebrating on the plane coming home, and the yelling and singing to taunt Trump and the rude Americans, was delightful.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Americans only won the 1991 Ryder Cup because of that rule. If they did not have that rule and had the rule the Americans now want that the full point goes to the team that has a player who can play the Europeans would have won the 1991 Ryder Cup. Suspect American commentator memory does not go back that far but they should change the rule for this Ryder cup and retroactively change the rule for that Ryder Cup.

It's a bad rule and should be changed going forward. Same with the idea that it could end in a tie. You only play it every two years, you need to have an actual winner.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

It's a bad rule and should be changed going forward. Same with the idea that it could end in a tie. You only play it every two years, you need to have an actual winner.

If they took a team event and made it an even more individual competition than the singles already make it just to break a tie that would be the worst outcome. Americans crying about a rule that that has been in place for 46 years is ridiculous. Having an individual tie breaker to settle the Ryder Cup would be even worse. I am fine with both rules.

There is an actual winner in the event of a tie, it is the winner from the previous Ryder Cup. That is the tiebreaker. The amount of history that has already been thrown out of golf for TV already kinda sucks, dumbing down the Ryder Cup just to find a winner would be just a further watering down of golf traditions.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If they took a team event and made it an even more individual competition than the singles already make it just to break a tie that would be the worst outcome. Americans crying about a rule that that has been in place for 46 years is ridiculous. Having an individual tie breaker to settle the Ryder Cup would be even worse. I am fine with both rules.

There is an actual winner in the event of a tie, it is the winner from the previous Ryder Cup. That is the tiebreaker. The amount of history that has already been thrown out of golf for TV already kinda sucks, dumbing down the Ryder Cup just to find a winner would be just a further watering down of golf traditions.

Well that’s not exactly right. There is no “winner” in case of a tie. One team simply retains the Cup, so it’s as if nothing is settled.

I don’t see a rules discussion as an “American” thing the way you do. No one is trying to change previous results. As for watering down traditions, rules get updated all the time. This is entertainment after all.

[DoubleK]

Adam Hadwin is going to lose his tour card. From the top 50 and playing in every signature event to having to go to q school. I don't believe he has any status to fall back on either.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Adam Hadwin is going to lose his tour card. From the top 50 and playing in every signature event to having to go to q school. I don't believe he has any status to fall back on either.

Had it to -5 today only to put up a double bogey 7 on 18 to likely miss the cut by one.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Adam Hadwin is going to lose his tour card. From the top 50 and playing in every signature event to having to go to q school. I don't believe he has any status to fall back on either.

Past champion status will get him into about 9 or 10 events, plus I'd assume he'd get into the Canadian Open. Sticking in the top 150, would help his status a bit, as would jumping up to 110. https://pgatourmedia.pgatourhq.com/s...for%202026.pdf

His SG approach have fallen off a cliff for whatever reason this year. He's been going to Mark Blackburn since last year, as had Gordon Sargent who also had a terrible year. He is the #1 ranked instructor, but it doesn't look like his approach works for everyone.

[DoubleK]

Hadwin leading after the second round in Bermuda. Needs a solo 3rd to get inside the top 100, with one more tournament after this week.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Hadwin leading after the second round in Bermuda. Needs a solo 3rd to get inside the top 100, with one more tournament after this week.

He's getting full tv coverage Thursday and today, and his approach shots have been great. Maybe he's finally figured something out.

It's a very consequential weekend for him. Solo 3rd is 190 pts in fall evetns and would just get him to 459 points which would be about 108th. Solo 2nd gets him comfortably in top 100. T2 gets him on the bubble for the last event. Regardless, he should have much better conditional status if he doesn't completely fall apart.

[puffnstuff]

Just flipped this on, Hadwin still leading by one after 15 holes today, the weather is horrible. Rain and very windy.

[DoubleK]

Hadwin +4 and is going to miss the top 10.

That's pretty much it for earning his card for next season barring a miracle next week.

Long road back to the tour playing in limited starts.