09-26-2025, 11:07 AM
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#9401
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I said it months ago and I will say it again now, if Conroy doesn't get his asking price for Andersson he will give him the contract Rasmus wants to stay. They can always revisit a trade down the road. Don't go into this thinking Andersson has to be traded for pennies on the dollar, Conroy will absolutely get a contract done with him if the market is not there right now.
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A contract based on Andersson’s play last season? Or the two seasons before that? Because those would be different contracts.
Andersson’s play over the next half season is going to go a long way to determining his value, both for his contract and in the trade market.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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09-26-2025, 11:13 AM
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#9402
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
A contract based on Andersson’s play last season? Or the two seasons before that? Because those would be different contracts.
Andersson’s play over the next half season is going to go a long way to determining his value, both for his contract and in the trade market.
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Exactly. That's why I said if this go to the trade deadline and Andersson has another season like last year his salary demands won't be as high and they will get a deal done. If he plays like prime time Andersson then Conroy will get his price. Personally I hope he has a great start and we can get the value we want for him but I would rather sign him at a more reasonable rate then give him away
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09-26-2025, 11:14 AM
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#9403
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
He wouldn’t, because any player who has played an NHL game is ineligible according to their criteria. It has nothing to do with who he plays for.
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If Parekh had been picked by Edmonton, Toronto, or Montreal, they would have used different criteria that allowed them to include him.
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09-26-2025, 11:15 AM
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#9404
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Reinbacher (MTL) down for 4-5 weeks with hand injury sustained last night
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Kid seems a bit unlucky. Their version of Honzek.
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09-26-2025, 11:19 AM
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#9405
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
If Parekh had been picked by Edmonton, Toronto, or Montreal, they would have used different criteria that allowed them to include him.
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No that doesn't hold because Demidov is excluded because of the criteria.
The list is bad.
But not because there is some sort of grudge against the Flames.
It's a bad list because the criteria is bad.
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09-26-2025, 11:25 AM
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#9406
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
He wouldn’t, because any player who has played an NHL game is ineligible according to their criteria. It has nothing to do with who he plays for.
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Real lame way of making a list of best prospects and young players. Any really good prospects will get at least some playing time pretty soon after their draft. It's basically a list of the mediocre top prospects under 23.
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09-26-2025, 11:25 AM
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#9407
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Exactly. That's why I said if this go to the trade deadline and Andersson has another season like last year his salary demands won't be as high and they will get a deal done. If he plays like prime time Andersson then Conroy will get his price. Personally I hope he has a great start and we can get the value we want for him but I would rather sign him at a more reasonable rate then give him away
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As much as many here won’t like it, I think you’re pretty close to being right on this.
Rightly or wrongly, I think Conroy puts a lot of value on home grown guys, especially ones who want to stick around.
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09-26-2025, 11:26 AM
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#9408
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#1 Goaltender
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Any waiver news yet?
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09-26-2025, 12:27 PM
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#9409
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
No that doesn't hold because Demidov is excluded because of the criteria.
The list is bad.
But not because there is some sort of grudge against the Flames.
It's a bad list because the criteria is bad.
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Correlation and causation.
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09-26-2025, 12:31 PM
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#9410
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Reinbacher (MTL) down for 4-5 weeks with hand injury sustained last night
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Hello Kent, can we interest you in a lightly used Miromanov or even a Jake Bean?
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09-26-2025, 12:37 PM
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#9411
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I would hope Andersson’s play this season has little to no bearing on keeping him. A good half season doesn’t change that he’ll be 30 when his new contract kicks in. Unless he comes down on years I don’t see Conroy going to 8 either for Ras, which is the only way I see him staying in Calgary.
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09-26-2025, 12:55 PM
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#9412
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
He wouldn’t, because any player who has played an NHL game is ineligible according to their criteria. It has nothing to do with who he plays for.
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The criteria certainly seems cherry picked to include a certain player...like under 23 and no NHL games is a pretty odd criteria to say the least. Howard didn't get any games because Tampa didn't think he was good enough.
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09-26-2025, 01:00 PM
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#9413
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Howard doesn't belong anywhere on that list, but Tampa wanted to sign him. He had no interest in them.
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09-26-2025, 01:01 PM
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#9414
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Scoring Winger
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I guess that I always assumed that the Roger's connection to Toronto and Edmonton meant that they got more airtime. Montreal has its own dedicated views. The rest of the Canadian teams scratch for the remaining eyeballs.
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09-26-2025, 01:01 PM
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#9415
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Ped
Howard doesn't belong anywhere on that list, but Tampa wanted to sign him. He had no interest in them.
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Howard wouldn’t sign because they wouldn’t guarantee him a roster spot, he would have had to earn it. He wouldn’t be good enough to play on that roster.
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09-26-2025, 03:18 PM
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#9416
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Exactly. That's why I said if this go to the trade deadline and Andersson has another season like last year his salary demands won't be as high and they will get a deal done. If he plays like prime time Andersson then Conroy will get his price. Personally I hope he has a great start and we can get the value we want for him but I would rather sign him at a more reasonable rate then give him away
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That's basically where I am at with the whole situation.
a) Andersson is held on, and with injuries (like the major ones around the league we have been seeing thus far), we can sell him high to a contending team that is desperate to keep their team afloat. Retention also can be maximized with the new LTIR rules
b) Andersson plays a decent season and earns the contract he wants to stay with the Flames at 8 years. No other team is able to give him that extra year right now. So, we do have that advantage. With the cap going up significantly over the next few years, if you can lock up Andersson around 7.5-8.5m, I think that is a fair price for a top end #3 defenseman. I say #3 because down the road I would hope Parekh is the top pairing RD for Calgary.
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09-26-2025, 03:30 PM
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#9417
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First Line Centre
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I wonder if things go well for team and player this year, could there be mutual interest in a shorter term extension?
Say 3 years at 10.5. It's a way to actually use the unused cap space we keep hearing that conny wants to use in order to keep the term short for an aging player. Ras makes 6-10 million above market for the term of the contract and can still sign another longish deal at age 32.
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09-26-2025, 03:32 PM
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#9418
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Major Major
I wonder if things go well for team and player this year, could there be mutual interest in a shorter term extension?
Say 3 years at 10.5. It's a way to actually use the unused cap space we keep hearing that conny wants to use in order to keep the term short for an aging player. Ras makes 6-10 million above market for the term of the contract and can still sign another longish deal at age 32.
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Overpaying one player is never good for a team. It kills morale and creates all sorts of issues. I also can't see this ownership group doing that. From their perspective, they're more concerned with actual money spent every year.
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09-26-2025, 03:33 PM
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#9419
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ped
Howard doesn't belong anywhere on that list, but Tampa wanted to sign him. He had no interest in them.
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because he wanted a guranteed spot and they told him to pound sand...he had no interest because they had too many good wingers for him to make it.
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Last edited by dino7c; 09-26-2025 at 03:40 PM.
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09-26-2025, 03:52 PM
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#9420
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
The criteria certainly seems cherry picked to include a certain player...like under 23 and no NHL games is a pretty odd criteria to say the least.
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NHL sportswriters don’t sit around dreaming up ways to disrespect the Flames. You can be a fan without embracing paranoid victim-complex.
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