[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Excellent throw back. One might say it is worthy of a paste eating troll.

I'm sorry you don't hate the Oilers as much as I do.... Lol

Unforgivable play.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/detroi...smus-andersson



Surprised that we do not hear more about the Red Wings when it comes to Andersson.
Yzerman sounds like Andersson is exactly what they are looking for.

Or is Detroit on his six team no trade list?
- Buffalo
- Winnipeg
- Ottawa
- Detroit

Andersson would be a good fit in Detroit. But Yzerman has been extremely patient and cautious - the only big swing he has taken in six seasons as GM was trading for a 25-year-old first line forward (Debrincat).

Maybe he’s starting to feel the heat and will change his approach. But until that happens, I wouldn’t expect him to get in a bidding war for Andersson or anyone else.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I'm sorry you don't hate the Oilers as much as I do.... Lol

Unforgivable play.

Oh, maybe it wasn't a throwback. Hilarious coincidence.

I guess you are a newer poster.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I agree but the league is so conservative. I can't see Detroit being aggressive.



A team like Vegas would take the chance.

Wasnt it Yzerman that gave up the farm for Tanner Jeonnot?

There's a lot of opinions thrown out in general in this thread (not saying you in this post PW), but nothing is certain. If you believe it's certain, it's gambling. There is always a chance.

Complete hypothetical situation. Anderson tells Conroy he'll consider a deal all year, then says 100% he will sign one, but work out numbers after season. Season ends, for whatever reason he flips the script and changes his mind.

Is that likely? No. But everybody is human, and there is no such thing as certainties when it comes to human nature and emotions

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[Wolven]

Originally Posted by manwiches

Wasnt it Yzerman that gave up the farm for Tanner Jeonnot?

There's a lot of opinions thrown out in general in this thread (not saying you in this post PW), but nothing is certain. If you believe it's certain, it's gambling. There is always a chance.

Complete hypothetical situation. Anderson tells Conroy he'll consider a deal all year, then says 100% he will sign one, but work out numbers after season. Season ends, for whatever reason he flips the script and changes his mind.

Is that likely? No. But everybody is human, and there is no such thing as certainties when it comes to human nature and emotions

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No chance on the hypothetical situation.
1) They already talked numbers and the Flames and Andersson are millions apart.
2) Conroy has publicly stated and committed through action that no player will walk to UFA after the Gaudreau walk and he has proven with numerous players that if they do not sign early then he will trade them as soon as he gets a deal that he likes.
3) I think the Flames want to trade Andersson to make room for Parekh (and hopefully another rookie or two)

If Conroy hadn't put so much evidence into trading away UFAs in his short tenure then maybe you could wiggle some uncertainty into the hypothetical.. but he has really demonstrated that he meant what he said.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by manwiches

Complete hypothetical situation. Anderson tells Conroy he'll consider a deal all year, then says 100% he will sign one, but work out numbers after season.

How can you agree 100% to sign a deal, but "work out numbers after the season"?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I'm sorry you don't hate the Oilers as much as I do.... Lol

Unforgivable play.

Will you be happy when every player who was on the Flames' roster in that series has been shot, or are you holding out for boiling them in oil?

You're completely irrational on that subject. It was five games. Five incredible stinkers of games, but still only five games. It didn't define anybody's entire career.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

How can you agree 100% to sign a deal, but "work out numbers after the season"?

By claiming to not want to negotiate during the season. Would be a distraction. Gaudreau's exit played out similarly.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

By claiming to not want to negotiate during the season. Would be a distraction. Gaudreau's exit played out similarly.

But that is not a 100% agreement to sign a deal.

You don't have 100% agreement to sign a deal until you actually sign a deal.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Will you be happy when every player who was on the Flames' roster in that series has been shot, or are you holding out for boiling them in oil?

You're completely irrational on that subject. It was five games. Five incredible stinkers of games, but still only five games. It didn't define anybody's entire career.

I think it defines Markstrom pretty well. Was his biggest moment and like the 4th time he's been the 2nd best goalie in a series.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

I think it defines Markstrom pretty well. Was his biggest moment and like the 4th time he's been the 2nd best goalie in a series.

So in other words, it only defined his entire career in conjunction with those other three series where he was the second-best goalie. Which means, it didn't define his entire career. His whole body of work did that.

[united]

Don't know if covered in another thread of previously, but Lebrun today:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/665...nhl-rumblings/

It is a story in itself that Andersson is still with the Calgary Flames, given what transpired this past summer. First, the soon-to-be 29-year-old turned down a six-year offer from the team, which opened the door to trade talks, which nearly resulted in a deal with the Vegas Golden Knights. But that trade never materialized and, well, here is Andersson entering the final year of his contract in Calgary.

Wouldn’t it be funny if this situation ended up like Brock Boeser with the Vancouver Canucks, where the player looked absolutely gone for so long, then ended up staying? I don’t think that’s where it’s headed, but then again, I didn’t think he would still be there now.

The sides have talked again since what transpired in June, and they left the door open for possible extension talks again at some point. But for now, the Flames have indicated to Andersson and his agent, Claude Lemieux, that they’re focused on starting the season and seeing where things go. I think Andersson might listen on an eight-year extension (with a healthy raise) if Calgary put that on the table, but for now, the team wants to start the season and see how things play out.

The Flames have a tough schedule to open the season, and if they dig an early hole in the standings it might become obvious that the most prudent play is to trade Andersson, who would be in high demand as a top-four right-handed defenseman, especially if Calgary is ready to eat half of his remaining salary ($4.55 million cap hit). All things being equal, while an extension isn’t totally out of the cards, I think the most likely scenario is a trade ahead of the March 6 deadline.

[mile]

Chris Johnston said similar things today on his show with Julian McKenzie. Brought up the Boeser situation, but also said trade is more likely than no trade.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by united

Andersson, who would be in high demand as a top-four right-handed defenseman, especially if Calgary is ready to eat half of his remaining salary ($4.55 million cap hit). [/i]

Boomer kind of argued this with Pinder on Barn Burner yesterday.

If the above is indeed true and we all assumed it was, why wasn't the trade done at the deadline? The draft?

Is it because he's only that valuable with an extension? Are the Flames asking too much?

For such an apparent hot commodity (RHD), the league seems lukewarm on him at best.

[TheIronMaiden]

If Andersson were a center, sure. But the Flames have some high quality D prospects who appear very close to ready.

[Goriders]

Can’t see how they don’t trade him with Parekh showing up this season and the logjam of young D in the system looking for a spot.

Assuming the starting 7 will be:
Weegar Hanley
Bahl Andersson
Bean Parekh
Pachal

That leaves the following needing a spot and some having to go through waivers:

Kuznetsov
Solovyov
Cicek
Miromanov
Brzustewicz

I wasn’t sure about Parekh. But after watching preseason he is ready. He should be top 4. Not stapled to Bean

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Boomer kind of argued this with Pinder on Barn Burner yesterday.

If the above is indeed true and we all assumed it was, why wasn't the trade done at the deadline? The draft?

Is it because he's only that valuable with an extension? Are the Flames asking too much?

For such an apparent hot commodity (RHD), the league seems lukewarm on him at best.

They weren’t going to trade him at the deadline when they were in the hunt. I’m not sure his value is all that much higher in the summer than the deadline.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Bonded

They weren’t going to trade him at the deadline when they were in the hunt. I’m not sure his value is all that much higher in the summer than the deadline.

I guess the point is that we keep being told that he'll be in such high demand but that really doesn't appear to be the case.

If we're getting what everyone seems to think we'll get, they'd have moved him at the deadline regardless. They didn't get anything at the draft even after the possibility of having such a profile asset for 2 playoff runs was missed.

Friedman, Lebrun, Johnston. All suggesting that Andersson will be in high demand. When is that coming if we haven't seen it already and how can we be so sure that there will be any more demand next spring?

I think thats why we're hearing extension talk again. And the Boeser comparison. Remember what the Vancouver GM had to say about trade offers there? I really wonder if thats happening here. Everyone overvaluing Ras.

I mean Vegas' offer was apparently (Friedman suggested this) a 1st and Nic Hague but Hague wouldn't come here. No one could or wants to match that?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I guess the point is that we keep being told that he'll be in such high demand but that really doesn't appear to be the case.

If we're getting what everyone seems to think we'll get, they'd have moved him at the deadline regardless. They didn't get anything at the draft even after the possibility of having such a profile asset for 2 playoff runs was missed.

Friedman, Lebrun, Johnston. All suggesting that Andersson will be in high demand. When is that coming if we haven't seen it already and how can we be so sure that there will be any more demand next spring?

I think thats why we're hearing extension talk again. And the Boeser comparison. Remember what the Vancouver GM had to say about trade offers there? I really wonder if thats happening here. Everyone overvaluing Ras.

I mean Vegas' offer was apparently (Friedman suggested this) a 1st and Nic Hague but Hague wouldn't come here. No one could or wants to match that?

Just because a deal hasn't been done, does not mean he isn't in high demand or doesn't have significant value.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Just because a deal hasn't been done, does not mean he isn't in high demand or doesn't have significant value.

All any team had to do was beat Nic Hague and a 1st - and that was for a signed Rasmus. Conroy was ready to move him.