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Old 09-16-2025, 04:39 PM   #2061
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Love you Forever is the craziest book. You know near the end when the son is holding his dying mom in his lap? That was literally me at the Foothills with my sick mom two years ago. We were in the waiting room with her in my lap for six or so hours. She checked in and never checked out. That book hits the circle of life so perfectly.
I can’t do that book. I have an unhealthy relationship with death and I just can’t read that book. My ex read it to our son but I just never could. I’d be a mess.
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Love you Forever is the craziest book. You know near the end when the son is holding his dying mom in his lap? That was literally me at the Foothills with my sick mom two years ago. We were in the waiting room with her in my lap for six or so hours. She checked in and never checked out. That book hits the circle of life so perfectly.
I've read it to my children many times. I can't make it through without bawling my eyes out. Even now thinking about it has me welling up.

I hope you were able to properly say goodbye to your mom. It's a tough thing to do, but we will all likely have to cope with losing out parents at some point.
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That's stupid. Brad Pitt is an insanely talented actor.

I read somebody describe him as a character actor trapped in a leading man's body. I think that nails it. Think of him in 12 Monkeys, Benjamin Button, Fight Club, Snatch, etc. Fricken Legends of the Fall was awesome, too. He plays such different characters in all of those.

Then also obviously he can pump out basic bitch movies that probably don't take a lot of acting chops like F1, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, etc.

Money Ball was great, too, but on that one I don't think you need to be a great actor for that role, but the cool thing about Pitt is he can pull that stuff off and be believable as well.

Just compare him to, like, George Clooney. That dude - no matter what the movie is - you're just watching George Clooney pretend to be different people. Pitt is top tier. Robert Redford isn't as good at all.

Totally agree. For example Brad Pitt is amazing in Ocean's Eleven, stands out amongst an ensemble cast. George Clooney is just there.
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I missed meeting Redford by a couple of days. He stayed at a remote fly fishing lodge in Patagonia just before me. He was an avid fly fisher and produced A River Runs Through It. He narrated the final scene - “I am haunted by waters.”

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The Sting is just such a great freaking movie, timeless. Forgot he directed Quiz Show, which I love too.
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Introduced my kids to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid recently . Such a great performance by both leads. Sneakers is a favourite, too.

I’m annoyed that one of the articles said “there’s been no cause of death listed.” The cause is that he’s eighty ####ing nine.
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That's stupid. Brad Pitt is an insanely talented actor.

I read somebody describe him as a character actor trapped in a leading man's body. I think that nails it. Think of him in 12 Monkeys, Benjamin Button, Fight Club, Snatch, etc. Fricken Legends of the Fall was awesome, too. He plays such different characters in all of those.

Then also obviously he can pump out basic bitch movies that probably don't take a lot of acting chops like F1, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, etc.

Money Ball was great, too, but on that one I don't think you need to be a great actor for that role, but the cool thing about Pitt is he can pull that stuff off and be believable as well.

Just compare him to, like, George Clooney. That dude - no matter what the movie is - you're just watching George Clooney pretend to be different people. Pitt is top tier. Robert Redford isn't as good at all.
Regarding Brad Pitt, I also like how self-aware he seems to be. His character in Inglourious Basterds was borderline self-parody. And he also played the original weatherman on the Jim Jefferies Show.
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The Sting is just such a great freaking movie, timeless. Forgot he directed Quiz Show, which I love too.
Milagro Beanfield War is also very good
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Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
The Candidate
The Way We Were
The Sting
The Great Gatsby
Three Days of the Condor
All the President's Men
A Bridge Too Far


And that's just his films in the 70s. Unreal the career he had. His later years were almost exclusively as a producer, and he did a ton of great work. Directed some great films like Ordinary People (holy ####), A River Runs Through It, Quiz Show, and The Horse Whisperer. Began the Sundance Film Festival, which is a major industry touchstone.

But of course, because of simplistic meme culture, we will always remember him for this moment in Jeremiah Johnson.



Nothing against that movie, but we are dumb.
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Not dead yet but Robert Munsch has opted for MAID. I remember him being an extremely entertaining speaker at a creative writing workshop I used to go to in high school, and my kids loved his books.

yea - that was tough to read earlier today


he was my preschool teacher in the mid 70s when i lived in ontario and was absolutely amazing. my mom has a newspaper clipping somewhere of the preschool with him doing story time and my brother is in the pic.
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I loved Robert Munsch's books as a kid. My mom kept them and read them countless time to mine - still do with my youngest.

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Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
The Candidate
The Way We Were
The Sting
The Great Gatsby
Three Days of the Condor
All the President's Men
A Bridge Too Far

And that's just his films in the 70s. Unreal the career he had. His later years were almost exclusively as a producer, and he did a ton of great work. Directed some great films like Ordinary People (holy ####), A River Runs Through It, Quiz Show, and The Horse Whisperer. Began the Sundance Film Festival, which is a major industry touchstone.

But of course, because of simplistic meme culture, we will always remember him for this moment in Jeremiah Johnson.



Nothing against that movie, but we are dumb.
The Great Gatsby is my favourite book. I've read it a hundred times and practically know it by heart. Used to read it to my kids when they were young as a bedtime book, too. It's peak literature to me.

Redford's Gatsby was fine. Leo's Gatsby was outstanding.

Redford was an actor playing a role. Leo was Jay Gatsby.

It is hard to compare them, though. I always use skateboarding as my reference point for how we - as a society - continue to perfect our crafts. I have old skateboarding videos from the early 90s I still watch for fun. The tricks the absolute pros were doing that my friends and I just could not do are some of the first tricks 15-year-old average skateboarders pull off in their sleep now. Snowboarding, too. I remember my friends and I freaking out over a guy almost landing a 720 in a movie in maybe 1990 or 1991. Like we'd rewind it and be blown away. Is it even possible? Was it just a fluke? The guy didn't even land it and it was still worth putting in the video...that's how crazy it was. Now I see kids hucking 720s in the park basically every time I go up the chair at Louise.

Leo is standing on the backs of giants. Someone in 2050 will probably make him look like he was acting in a school play. It's reasonable for somebody older to really appreciate Redford. For me, looking back at his work through my 2025 eyes? He doesn't wow me at all, but depending on your frame of reference I get it, I guess I can probably concede.

It's funny...had that coworker not used Pitt as his comparison then I probably wouldn't have even blinked at that comment; however, Pitt is extraordinary and Redford absolutely falls short of Pitt in the talent department. Also weird to say he was better looking. I mean, they're both 10s. It's not like we're talking about Redford versus Steve Buscemi or something.
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I've read it to my children many times. I can't make it through without bawling my eyes out. Even now thinking about it has me welling up.

I hope you were able to properly say goodbye to your mom. It's a tough thing to do, but we will all likely have to cope with losing out parents at some point.
Yeah man. I can barely ever summon a tear, but that book is my kryptonite and that was before I even personally faced the final boss at the end.
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Yeah man. I can barely ever summon a tear, but that book is my kryptonite and that was before I even personally faced the final boss at the end.
My voice breaks along with summoning tears when reading that book. I had read it many times before kids with no problem at all. After kids though, I've never gotten through it the same way. It doesn't help at all that my kids will look at me and then pat my head or shoulders when that happens.

It's the only book that does this to me.

Realizing there's a final boss for that book... dang. I know it's been a little bit, but sorry for your loss Sliver.
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It brings me an immense sense of relief that this book has such a profound emotional impact on everyone now that they're in adulthood. I ####ing hated it as a kid, I wanted my mom to read just about anything else. Then I found my copy from childhood in my books right after my dad passed away and I don't think I've cried so hard and it was just by seeing the god damn cover.
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It brings me an immense sense of relief that this book has such a profound emotional impact on everyone now that they're in adulthood. I ####ing hated it as a kid, I wanted my mom to read just about anything else. Then I found my copy from childhood in my books right after my dad passed away and I don't think I've cried so hard and it was just by seeing the god damn cover.
Agreed. I thought the book was kinda stupid and meh when I was younger.

I even think I laughed at my wife about not wanting to read it again and picked it up to read to my son without thinking much of it... but a few pages in, I could not keep reading without my emotions overflowing.
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That book is hard to read, and so emotional. That said, my brother was reading it to my daughter, who was around 4-5 at the time, and when his voice broke, she was ruthlessly laughing at him! While I sided with him, in that it's so hard to read that book, it was still hilarious!
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That book is hard to read, and so emotional. That said, my brother was reading it to my daughter, who was around 4-5 at the time, and when his voice broke, she was ruthlessly laughing at him! While I sided with him, in that it's so hard to read that book, it was still hilarious!
The other one I enjoyed reading to my kids (and by myself) is Oscar Wilde's The Happy Prince. It's another one that you need to have pre-palmed a Kleenex for the inevitable tear you'll shed at the end.
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