So I'm hearing that social media is being flooded with A.I. fake photos of the gunman with people claiming to have "cleaned up" the grainy FBI footage.
And all the dudes look different as a result. Some internet sleuths are probably actually well intentioned. Whereas others are actively trying to push misinformation.
The assassin needs to be caught, and I hope that happens soon. But I am starting to think it probably won't.
"OK, it wasn't my son. But damn, did I just want him to move out of my house already." Admitted the exasperated father of an unemployed but innocent young man.*
*yes, I made that up, for the slow.
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I dunno. If someone walked into some random public space, say Denny’s, and starting spewing the crap that Kirk came up with, that be asked to leave at the very least, and possibly hauled away. Yet he made millions with it.
I dunno. If someone walked into some random public space, say Denny’s, and starting spewing the crap that Kirk came up with, that be asked to leave at the very least, and possibly hauled away. Yet he made millions with it.
They wouldn’t be murdered though. I guess that’s the difference.
I don’t follow Kirk. TBH I had to google who he was. Whether you like what he said or not you can’t murder people for debating. If you do it will stifle debate. Which is the foundation of democracy.
Pretty sad statement of where North American society’s are headed. Divided, angry and closed minded. On both sides. Not a good recipe.
They wouldn’t be murdered though. I guess that’s the difference.
I don’t follow Kirk. TBH I had to google who he was. Whether you like what he said or not you can’t murder people for debating. If you do it will stifle debate. Which is the foundation of democracy.
Pretty sad statement of where North American society’s are headed. Divided, angry and closed minded. On both sides. Not a good recipe.
Can you please share all the posts you made about the political assassination of Melissa Hortman
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It’s true that most people believe that all murder is bad, including this one.
I don't even think that's true. I think most people can envision a scenario where they'd feel justified in murdering someone, even while saying as a general rule, they shouldn't. There aren't a lot of people who actually have hard and fast moral rules that they would never break no matter how extreme the circumstances.
It doesn't even go as far as assassinations; how many people were upset about Osama Bin Laden's killing? How many would be sad to hear that someone had knocked off Vladimir Putin?
By and large, we're okay with someone being intentionally and strategically killed because they're a bad person who has done bad things. It's just a question of where the line is.
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One side has gone full main stream fascism and constantly and consistently pushes hate and disinformation until things start to explode, but yeah, “both sides. “
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I don't even think that's true. I think most people can envision a scenario where they'd feel justified in murdering someone, even while saying as a general rule, they shouldn't. There aren't a lot of people who actually have hard and fast moral rules that they would never break no matter how extreme the circumstances.
It doesn't even go as far as assassinations; how many people were upset about Osama Bin Laden's killing? How many would be sad to hear that someone had knocked off Vladimir Putin?
By and large, we're okay with someone being intentionally and strategically killed because they're a bad person who has done bad things. It's just a question of where the line is.
I see what you’re saying, though I think even in a lot of those scenarios most would agree that murder is the worst method even if the desired outcome was for that person not to be alive anymore.
The Utah press conference is hideous. Kash making it sound like the FBI solved the crime.
And Utah governor insisting Kirk was a great guy who didn’t spew hate. This is dystopia.
I see what you’re saying, though I think even in a lot of those scenarios most would agree that murder is the worst method even if the desired outcome was for that person not to be alive anymore.
Eh, still not even the worst way someone can no longer be alive. Like if he'd gone on vacation, contracted some deadly disease and then went around infecting a few dozen people before dying of it, you could reasonably say "It would have been better if he'd been shot".
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They wouldn’t be murdered though. I guess that’s the difference.
I don’t follow Kirk. TBH I had to google who he was. Whether you like what he said or not you can’t murder people for debating. If you do it will stifle debate. Which is the foundation of democracy.
Pretty sad statement of where North American society’s are headed. Divided, angry and closed minded. On both sides. Not a good recipe.
I don't know how many times it needs to be repeated, but clearly it hasn't been enough, because you and others are still doing it. We can't have an honest conversation if you make stuff up. This is a straw man you are presenting. He wasn't murdered for "debating". We don't know why he was murdered. What we do know is he was a racist bigot who hate mongered with a smile. Being closed minded to people like this is a feature, not a bug. And if you don't see why that is, you have a lot of self-work to do.
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I don't know who this guy is, but I guess he's comfortable just admitting him and the GOP are Nazis now?
Far right gamergate weirdo. As concerning as statements like that are especially because they are not unique, he is exceptionally situated on the “pure loser” area of the RW spectrum. Zero redeeming qualities.
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Eh, still not even the worst way someone can no longer be alive. Like if he'd gone on vacation, contracted some deadly disease and then went around infecting a few dozen people before dying of it, you could reasonably say "It would have been better if he'd been shot".
Don’t you introduce the trolly scenario with me, mister.
After some pointed out who this Charlie Kirk character is, I watched his youtube videos for a bit. I don't see the "Hitler" in him, but it did occur to be that the States is made up of these characters who make a living debating to stir up the masses. People have stopped thinking for themselves and follow people like this more and more, siding with political beliefs and getting suckered into such topics. I shouldn't care what a person like him thinks but for some reason people have to identify themselves as RW or LW and follow that path. It's crazy but people really have to stop getting suckered into this nonsense.
The Republican key on this. This is their ground game 24/7. Be on radio hours everyday be on podcasts hours everyday. Go your university campuses and debate, speakers corner everyday.
Every election people talk about converting independent voters or unhappy voters on the other side. Kirk ignored that and realized there were millions of unregistered voters on university campuses, let's go meet them.
You seen all the headlines in this thread. Here is a normal session a few days ago a UCSD
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