Wow, $16m/year is a big bump. McDavid will be at least $18 if Kaprizov signs for that much.
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From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
Look at some of the comments in this very thread and others about him.
It's a small and ####ty part of the fan base.
Sure, I'll grant you that, but I don't think running Andersson out of town is at a higher level than Backlund, Kadri, Coleman etc.
It seems like an attempt to manufacture another "me/us against the world" narrative, like the team used last year, one that Andersson can use as fuel so he can have a better season. I mean if it helps, that's great, I just don't think he's losing any sleep over it, or feels run out of town.
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Sure, I'll grant you that, but I don't think running Andersson out of town is at a higher level than Backlund, Kadri, Coleman etc.
It seems like an attempt to manufacture another "me/us against the world" narrative, like the team used last year, one that Andersson can use as fuel so he can have a better season. I mean if it helps, that's great, I just don't think he's losing any sleep over it, or feels run out of town.
No one says it's at a higher level. You think those guys don't notice or care?
It’s stupid for an athlete to read and value the opinions of people that don’t know much about hockey. Maybe he hasn’t quite grown up in this city.
There really should be a PSA at the bottom of all posters that acknowledges they do not know much about hockey. Usually it is self evident but I would put it in place for any players on the forum.
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I mean, there's a certain poster (I can't remember who) that mentions his +/- every time he refers to him.
There's guys who claim he's a liability and should basically be traded for free.
I think it's easier said that done to try and just avoid/ignore all of this.
I pointed to his +/- and I also said I think he should be dealt before the season. I also called that I doubt he signs with anyone right now as he is coming off 2 bad years and teams probably will low ball him with contract offers and the offers would not meet his expectation. Sounds like Ras is saying the same thing I said 2 months ago.
I don't think the offers get better, I don't think he will do a sign and trade deal and this could be a distraction. I still think trading him now is better, just not sure how that means he is terrible, he has never contributed to this franchise and how that means I think he is a whiner and is going to screw this franchise. I think he will do what is best for him and what's best for him is not going to help the Flames get value. This is why I would have traded him last summer as I said last summer his value would go down after this season. It did and the offers IMO are probably worse than what they would have been summer 2024.
No one says it's at a higher level. You think those guys don't notice or care?
Do you care what some random person on the street outside your workplace, that has zero knowledge of what you do, says about the quality of your work?
There’s about 1% on this board that could make a living talking about hockey. The rest of us are opinionated imbeciles when it comes to hockey talk. Why would anyone at Ras’s level care what people like us think?
If he means it, then that shows some immaturity. But like others have said, it is probably a self-fabrication to add fuel to his fire.
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No one says it's at a higher level. You think those guys don't notice or care?
I'm sure they notice, but I don't think they care. Like Zadorov said: at the end of the day they go back to their beautiful wife, their beautiful home, great life and realize how fortunate they are. It doesn't unravel by people venting their own frustrations on social networks or news articles.
I'm sure they notice, but I don't think they care. Like Zadorov said: at the end of the day they go back to their beautiful wife, their beautiful home, great life and realize how fortunate they are. It doesn't unravel by people venting their own frustrations on social networks or news articles.
Do you care what some random person on the street outside your workplace, that has zero knowledge of what you do, says about the quality of your work?
There’s about 1% on this board that could make a living talking about hockey. The rest of us are opinionated imbeciles when it comes to hockey talk. Why would anyone at Ras’s level care what people like us think?
If he means it, then that shows some immaturity. But like others have said, it is probably a self-fabrication to add fuel to his fire.
Apples and oranges. I am not in a fan service business.
Why would you think athletes don't care about what fans think? What would the reaction be if Rasmus said "I don't care what fans think of me?"
People want some sort of licence to say whatever they want about players, coaches, etc without any negative implication. Sorry, but players are people and if they read that their own fans hate them, it's going to impact at least some of them.
I pointed to his +/- and I also said I think he should be dealt before the season. I also called that I doubt he signs with anyone right now as he is coming off 2 bad years and teams probably will low ball him with contract offers and the offers would not meet his expectation. Sounds like Ras is saying the same thing I said 2 months ago.
I don't think the offers get better, I don't think he will do a sign and trade deal and this could be a distraction. I still think trading him now is better, just not sure how that means he is terrible, he has never contributed to this franchise and how that means I think he is a whiner and is going to screw this franchise. I think he will do what is best for him and what's best for him is not going to help the Flames get value. This is why I would have traded him last summer as I said last summer his value would go down after this season. It did and the offers IMO are probably worse than what they would have been summer 2024.
Nah, it wasn't someone just pointing out his +/- as a stat and a factor in evaluation, it was some sort of snarky cold weather joke. Basically it was that poster's name for him. That was repeated over and over.
I pointed to his +/- and I also said I think he should be dealt before the season. I also called that I doubt he signs with anyone right now as he is coming off 2 bad years and teams probably will low ball him with contract offers and the offers would not meet his expectation. Sounds like Ras is saying the same thing I said 2 months ago.
I don't think the offers get better, I don't think he will do a sign and trade deal and this could be a distraction. I still think trading him now is better, just not sure how that means he is terrible, he has never contributed to this franchise and how that means I think he is a whiner and is going to screw this franchise. I think he will do what is best for him and what's best for him is not going to help the Flames get value. This is why I would have traded him last summer as I said last summer his value would go down after this season. It did and the offers IMO are probably worse than what they would have been summer 2024.
Well if he has 50 points in 63 games at the deadline I think it is self-evident how doing what is best for him (having a good season to up his trade value) helps the Flames get value. So he can do things that are mutually beneficial.
I don’t recall anyone saying last summer that the Flames should trade Rasmus but I might have missed it. If I had been that clairvoyant I would probably be quoting myself to show off my precognition.
You lost here, I'm not saying Andersson is lying. He himself said "the distraction comes from the outside, not from the inside". He also mentioned that the door is "never closed on an extension , and he loved every second of it". He doesn't strike me like a guy that feels like he's being run out of town. I mean even the "I've read all season how much I suck" was him elaborating on why he probably shouldn't sign an extension right away. He proceeded to elaborate "the thing that bothers you is the fake information that comes out. I saw some reports that said I would only sign with one team, and this and that. It's the furthest from the truth." I think this confirms he doesn't really care about people saying "he sucks".
Listen to Andersson and watch him instead of just reading what he said. I honestly don't get any run out of town vibes from this interview.
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