Israel declares war on Hamas

[renny]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Are they talking about the first strike or the 2nd strike there when saying they were targeting the camera? Because the first strike also killed a journalist. Also, the whole "hospital" part seems to be completely ignored throughout.

Hamas puts a camera on a hospital (this being the excuse)...suddenly makes it ok to strike?

Ok...what about the 2nd strike on live TV that targeted medical workers and journalists attending the scene and a wounded / dead?

If the 2nd strike hadn't been caught on a live Reuters feed with it being as blatant and deliberate as it gets, this would have gotten buried like the many videos and stories.

Can't attribute it to a Hamas camera when it was a double tap. Must have been quite a sturdy camera to need two taps.

Need to add another entry to the list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap_strike

So there's more:

“Yesterday evening we were told we were going to have a mandatory training... on recognising sexual assault. This training [we were told] could only have been done in person and not online. So at 9am we left Nasser,” one of the doctors involved told The Telegraph.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...050000615.html

So... how is this an accident? Please, somebody, tell me. They clearly know that if they also murdered a bunch of American doctors, the media would lose their minds. None of these things is an accident. They never are.

[ThePrince]

The world's biggest academic association of genocide scholars has passed a resolution saying the legal criteria have been met to establish Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, its president said on Monday.

Eighty-six percent of those who voted among the 500-member International Association of Genocide Scholars backed the resolution declaring Israel’s "policies and actions in Gaza" had met the legal definition set out in Article II of the 1948 UN convention on genocide.

No surprise for many people on here, but maybe steps like this will convince people like blankall. Though the complete silence since his previous comments makes me think it’s a fool’s errand to hope he (and others of the same ilk) would finally admit what’s been happening is genocide.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ys-2025-09-01/

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

No surprise for many people on here, but maybe steps like this will convince people like blankall. Though the complete silence since his previous comments makes me think it’s a fool’s errand to hope he (and others of the same ilk) would finally admit what’s been happening is genocide.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ys-2025-09-01/

A rational person would admit that it is genocide. Extremists will hand wave this declaration away saying that association is anti-Israel and biased.

No genocide here folks, just a Special military operation - wait where have I heard that before?

[Language]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

No surprise for many people on here, but maybe steps like this will convince people like blankall. Though the complete silence since his previous comments makes me think it’s a fool’s errand to hope he (and others of the same ilk) would finally admit what’s been happening is genocide.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ys-2025-09-01/

Ah yes, the organization where anyone can join if a) they pay $30, and b) enter their fake/real name. You can view it as genocide if you want, but if you’re going to base it on the “scholarly experts”, at least do some research on who you’re touting. C’mon now.

https://www.thefp.com/p/another-reas...st-the-experts


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[btimbit]

It's not really important who is calling it genocide, because it pretty clearly is

[ResAlien]

I'm more impressed we still have genocide deniers round these parts. Well done

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Language

Ah yes, the organization where anyone can join if a) they pay $30, and b) enter their fake/real name. You can view it as genocide if you want, but if you’re going to base it on the “scholarly experts”, at least do some research on who you’re touting. C’mon now.

https://www.thefp.com/p/another-reas...st-the-experts


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Yes, it has been flooded with pro-Israel activists since October 7.

But it’s funny you should say the bolded while citing the Free Press. Perhaps this is a lesson for you to learn as well.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by Language

Ah yes, the organization where anyone can join if a) they pay $30, and b) enter their fake/real name. You can view it as genocide if you want, but if you’re going to base it on the “scholarly experts”, at least do some research on who you’re touting. C’mon now.

https://www.thefp.com/p/another-reas...st-the-experts


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I have - and I also posted this article a while back, written by an Israeli and former IDF officer who happens to be a professor of genocide studies at an Ivy League university.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/o...ultPosition=15

Funny, you didn’t reply to that one with some dumb #### argument….

This is just another group of people stating what many people already know.

Also, it’s actually hilarious to post an article from a site that doesn’t have great credibility, as a way of questioning credibility. A site owned by someone with ties to Israel and that has a clear bias.

At least do some research on who you’re touting. C’mon now.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-free-press-bias/

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

I'm more impressed we still have genocide deniers round these parts. Well done

Are you though?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Are you though?

It's definitely interesting, tbh. Like, we all know of holocaust deniers and that - without exception - they are the biggest POS people ever.

But a live genocide with daily proof and evidence and still denying it? Hard not to be impressed by that level of r-wordedness.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Language

Ah yes, the organization where anyone can join if a) they pay $30, and b) enter their fake/real name. You can view it as genocide if you want, but if you’re going to base it on the “scholarly experts”, at least do some research on who you’re touting. C’mon now.

https://www.thefp.com/p/another-reas...st-the-experts


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What's your point? Even if it doesn't meet some semantic definition of a genocide (which it already does), does that mean it's okay to continue to target and kill mostly innocent people? At what number does it become a genocide and therefore not okay by you? Or is it okay no matter what because Israel=good, Hamas=bad?

[TherapyforGlencross]

so that hospital wasn’t struck twice, but four times, and killed an AP and Reuters journalist.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

A rational person would admit that it is genocide. Extremists will hand wave this declaration away saying that association is anti-Israel and biased.

No genocide here folks, just a Special military operation - wait where have I heard that before?

Originally Posted by Language

Ah yes, the organization where anyone can join if a) they pay $30, and b) enter their fake/real name. You can view it as genocide if you want, but if you’re going to base it on the “scholarly experts”, at least do some research on who you’re touting. C’mon now.

https://www.thefp.com/p/another-reas...st-the-experts


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Spoiler!

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

so that hospital wasn’t struck twice, but four times, and killed an AP and Reuters journalist.

Available options for a response to this:

a) Hamas terrorists were using the hospital as a base - "we have maps!"
b) Hamas was launching rockets from the hospital
c) That wasn't a hospital - "we have photos!"
d) The journalists showed support for Hamas based on our intelligence and we believe were supporting Hamas in other ways just like the corrupt UNRWA - "can't share the classified intelligence, but you can trust us!"
e) You're anti-semitic

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Available options for a response to this:

a) Hamas terrorists were using the hospital as a base - "we have maps!"
b) Hamas was launching rockets from the hospital
c) That wasn't a hospital - "we have photos!"
d) The journalists showed support for Hamas based on our intelligence and we believe were supporting Hamas in other ways just like the corrupt UNRWA - "can't share the classified intelligence, but you can trust us!"
e) You're anti-semitic

Ahhhh, so close! The answer is actually f) all of the above, as evidenced by the awful Jonathan Conricus in the interview below:

https://youtu.be/6A0cVXu-k4c

[indes]

Isreal going after Hamas in Qatar

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article...tal-city-doha/

[Fuzz]

Also going after the few remaining buildings in Gaza City that haven't been turned to rubble.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel...628712?cmp=rss


Here's a great map interface where you can zoom in and see there isn't much left to convert to rubble piles, anyway.


https://ee-ollielballinger.projects.....4896;zoom=14;

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Here's a great map interface where you can zoom in and see there isn't much left to convert to rubble piles, anyway.


https://ee-ollielballinger.projects.....4896;zoom=14;

Makes post WW2 Berlin look like a fixer upper.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Also going after the few remaining buildings in Gaza City that haven't been turned to rubble.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel...628712?cmp=rss


Here's a great map interface where you can zoom in and see there isn't much left to convert to rubble piles, anyway.


https://ee-ollielballinger.projects.....4896;zoom=14;

Abhorrent. Unbelievable this could be justified by anyone.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Makes post WW2 Berlin look like a fixer upper.

I was just in Dresden, and spent some time looking at after war photos. The similarities are striking. The difference is the allies had strategic reasons, in theory anyway. And it only lasted two days, instead of two years.


Great pictures here:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/w...niversary.html