[Rumour] Flames closing in on signing Zary (3 yrs)

[Robbob]

So Pagnotta found out they are negotiating. I welcome the news, but it isn't exactly going out on a limb that the Flames are starting to work harder on getting that deal done now that everyone is back.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Robbob

So Pagnotta found out they are negotiating. I welcome the news, but it isn't exactly going out on a limb that the Flames are starting to work harder on getting that deal done now that everyone is back.

Pagnotta - *Breaking* Sources are telling me training camp will open in a few weeks

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Craig "The Calculator" Conroy

If ever there was a post for Calculon to like, this is it.

[Scrambler]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Some of us are more visual learners

One thing to keep in mind, $4 mil in 1990 was a MUCH bigger number

[Goriders]

Last piece of the puzzle outside of the andersson soap opera. Be awesome to package that one up too before TC. But I think Andersson will be a trade deadline move.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Scrambler

One thing to keep in mind, $4 mil in 1990 was a MUCH bigger number

4 million the number is 4 million in both years.

Monetary value though

[Scrambler]

Originally Posted by Goriders

4 million the number is 4 million in both years.

Monetary value though

Yeah, I should have made that more logical. To me it's a big number either way, but it is the monetary value of the figure that is significantly different, especially comparing 1990 to 2025.

I do love the GIF though, that jogged my memory for sure. I remember an era where I felt I'd better be a good kid to keep the mean/angry shadows from coming to get me at some point

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Scrambler

Yeah, I should have made that more logical. To me it's a big number either way, but it is the monetary value of the figure that is significantly different, especially comparing 1990 to 2025.

I do love the GIF though, that jogged my memory for sure. I remember an era where I felt I'd better be a good kid to keep the mean/angry shadows from coming to get me at some point

I was just bugging you.

There are always mean angry shadows. No matter what you do.

So do what you want!

[Reggie Dunlop]

This gets done amiably I think.

Now, the next looming PANIC BUTTON is a Wolf extension...

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Last piece of the puzzle outside of the andersson soap opera. Be awesome to package that one up too before TC. But I think Andersson will be a trade deadline move.

Depends when the Wolf contract gets done. Might still be a piece of the puzzle.

[heep223]

Zary flew under the radar as a prospect because of his injury. Still think he’s underrated

[stemit14]

I could see Zary’s argument for wanting AAV closer to Rossi. If he was given the same opportunities and was given a long run at centre and got to play a powerplay with someone like Kaprisov, his numbers are probably even closer to Rossi.

[AustinL_NHL]

Rossi has the draft pedigree + durability + top-6 production.

Zary is lacking on all those fronts and shouldn't be aiming/asking for Rossi $

[calumniate]

3.99999995. Because there has to be a 3 in it

[topfiverecords]

4.007

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Zary is 24 in Sept, so a three year deal walks him directly to UFA at 27.

Which means he’s either extended at 26 or traded for a haul before then.

[Toonage]

Let Dave Lowry handle it. He's the math wiz, right?

[Hells Bells]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I could see Zary’s argument for wanting AAV closer to Rossi. If he was given the same opportunities and was given a long run at centre and got to play a powerplay with someone like Kaprisov, his numbers are probably even closer to Rossi.

You can't use the "if I was handed this kind of icetime, then I could do what this guy is doing" argument.

Zary has to earn the playing time and create that opportunity for himself.

No way is Rossi a comparable.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

I think Rossi is a comparable as they are similar age, RFA status and position (maybe). But that just means is Zary's value 80% ($4m) or 75% ($3.75m) or what ever.

[gvitaly]

I always thought Mangiapane was a good comparable.

Mangiapane signed for 2 x $2.425M in 2020. That prorates to $2.84M x 2.
Mangiapane was coming off a 17G, 32P season in 68GP.
Zary just put up 13G, 27P in 54GP this year, and 14G, 34P in 63GP the year before.

That's why I was guesstimating something in the $2.75-3.25M range x 2 years. Adding the extra year is probably worth an extra million, so $3.75-$4.25M x 3 makes a lot of sense.