2025 Toronto Blue Jays Season Thread

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Kidder

In the last 5 minutes? Why wasn’t he available today?

It was announced before the game. They would have considered using him if Bassitt needed to come out early.

I wouldn’t love using Lauer in the spot that they brought in Little. He doesn’t really have the stuff to wriggle out of a mess created by someone else.

As bad as Little has been, he was a better choice in that moment than Lauer.

I actually would have preferred to leave Nance in.

[3thirty]

Can we just use 2 starters a game? May as well put a position player in with this bullpen right now.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Kidder

In the last 5 minutes? Why wasn’t he available today?

He probably was. But it's Schneider doing Schneider things.

[Blaster86]

Let Nance work out of it.


Guy has the shortest leash in the world for Nance but will watch Hoffman lob meatballs to six batters.

[flamingred89]

Did Schneider burst a blood vessel in his left eye? I wouldn't blame him with the bullpen he has.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

I wouldn't blame him with the bullpen he has.

He and his staff are a big part of the problem.


Again, the Blue jays kept a drunk driving #### head and protected him from the blow back for these consistently awful relief pitching results.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Sending Fluharty down and losing him for 15 days was a really significant mistake IMO.

Fisher going down was also painful but not as bad as losing the leftie.

It almost made me wonder if they didn’t know that roster expansion wouldn’t override the 15 day rule.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Sending Fluharty down and losing him for 15 days was a really significant mistake IMO.

Yeeeeeup

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Let Nance work out of it.


Guy has the shortest leash in the world for Nance but will watch Hoffman lob meatballs to six batters.

100 percent agree with this. He either gets out of it or doesn’t but give him the chance.

[bizaro86]

It's a nice change of pace for the other team to blow a save before the Jay's pen blows a save. Keeps things fresh and interesting.

Hopefully they're able to turn things around here and salvage this series before going to NY.

And of course most of the talk has been about the pitching but the bats need to get it together as well. Vladdy needs to do more than an infield single per game, and hopefully Barger gets going as well. It really does seem like Pham messed with his head.

[Hockey]

I'm not one to handle big losses well when my teams are good. Right now it's easy being a Titans fan and Canucks fan cuz I have zero expectations for either of them. Now that the Jays are good I get too down for losses like this.

[Karl]

Again their freaking stupid ass bullpen. Well I guess Yariel was good for the 1st time in maybe a month for a change.

[Karl]

Vladdy & Barger especially need to find their hitting shoes real soon. Barger's bat has been horrible ass ever since that Pham guy went off on social media on him without having his facts straight.

Would be nice if Gimenez wasn't such an offensive blackhole too.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Karl

Vladdy & Barger especially need to find their hitting shoes real soon. Barger's bat has been horrible ass ever since that Pham guy went off on social media on him without having his facts straight.

Would be nice if Gimenez wasn't such an offensive blackhole too.

Yeah. I wonder if at some point we see Clement at 2nd, Barger at 3rd as the everday infield. I really think Gimenez needs to be less terrible with the bat to have that spot. Putting in Straw/Schneider more often would be an upgrade on offsense, and Straw is probably even on defense. (Straw in right, Barger 3rd, Clement 2nd doesnt seem worse to me than Barger in right, Clement 3rd, Gimeneze 2nd)

Schneider would be a big upgrade on offense, his OPS is 858 compared to Gimenez at 618. That's a huge difference. I get Gimenez is a better defender and they're paying him a lot, but winning the games is important too, and at this point I think Schneider replacing him helps that.

Really surprised how little Schneider has played considering how he's hit since being back. His 858 OPS on the season compares to Vladdy at 859 (and Schneider is well over 900 his last 7/15/30 games). The only other Jays ahead of him are Varsho, Loperfido and Springer. That's a lot of regulars not hitting as well as Schneider but playing more than him - their are 8 Jays with worse OPS than Davis but more at bats than him.

Edited to add: I think IKF was a good waiver claim/September add because of his versatility. He covers injury risk at a lot of places. Sure sucks for Joey Loperfido though, whose primary reason for demotion was the sin of having options left and who likely would have got that spot.