American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

This is your daily reminder that Trump is a pedophile

And regularly acted on it.

I feel like just calling him a pedophile is really undermining the amount of rape and sexual abuse he partook in… he didn’t only have the thoughts.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Vance won't be President, Peter Thiel and co will be. We all know this by now, right?

Thiel is one of a dozen people behind the scenes who would be grasping for influence through others and that's never actually easy. There are no actual Palpatines out there.

[Senator Clay Davis]

You are aware Thiel owns Vance, yeah? He doesn't need to grasp for influence, he owns the man who takes over. He may have to fend off prospective challengers, but thats way easier when you control the most powerful person.

[activeStick]

Breaking news, Trump, 79, is alive! Lol. I agree Vance wouldn't run anything if Trump died, the lobbies, corporations and special interests would run America, just like they always have whether it be with a Republican in the seat or a Democrat in the seat.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Vance as President
Russell Vought as Vice President

Oligarchs + Heritage Foundation Christian Nationalists

They will assassinate anyone else to tries to muscle in.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Golfing today, so the champagne can go back in the fridge.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1961770832604127308

Proof that thoughts and prayers do not work...

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Vance will not be worse because he will be too distracted trying to consolidate support to do anywhere near as much damage even if he were inclined to, which he isn't.

Like I mentioned earlier, he has a lot of powerful people lining up behind him. He may even be more dangerous, because he will enable the horrible #### to function in the background while presenting a more stable(yet still eminently punch-able) face to the world.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Trump hasn’t been seen publicly since Tuesday. No events on his itinerary this weekend. No golf in over two weeks. Social media is a buzz that he’s hanging on by a thread or has died. A little surprised we haven’t seen the administration come out and address it at this point.

And here I was anticipating some wacky 'Weekend at Bernies' shenaniganery!

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Thiel is one of a dozen people behind the scenes who would be grasping for influence through others and that's never actually easy. There are no actual Palpatines out there.

Theil is literally the sole reason Vance was Trump's running mate.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

Read on Twitter: What percentage of Americans do you think are stupid?

Answer: “Not percentage, but here's the exact number! 77,303,568”

It's the same percentage that he will lower prescription medication by. 1,200%

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Like I mentioned earlier, he has a lot of powerful people lining up behind him. He may even be more dangerous, because he will enable the horrible #### to function in the background while presenting a more stable(yet still eminently punch-able) face to the world.

I agree. Of course he’s an idiot, but he’s a smart idiot. The fact that he manages to attract the attention of rich, powerful sociopaths says even more about him than we know.

From what I understand Trump has never proposed to disappear people by pushing them out of helicopters over the ocean, but Vance thinks that is just fine. He thinks Franco and Pinochet did the right thing.

If Vance gets in, Miller, Yarvin, Vought, etc. will have even more influence than they do now. Less time spent on ballrooms , banners, demolishing parts of the White House, and more time being insidious.

He may lose the fanatical Trump cultists, but he will gain back the Epstein-file MAGAs. I don’t know how he’ll spin things to the pissed -off farmers, but these authoritarian types always manage to find a way.

Rachel Maddow’s “Ultra” podcast really educated me on so many things. In school we were given the impression (it was a long time ago, of course) that all Americans hated the Nazis; the McCarthy era was just some short-lived anomaly that didn’t concern the average person. We never learned that there were Nazis in our government, never learned about the America First Committee or the Christian Front. All we ever really learned was “Commies, Socialists and Nazis bad”, with no real explanation of what those things actually were beyond the obvious. Watch out for those Commies, but white Nationalists are good? You shouldn’t have to be a history or political science major to learn these things in depth.

That being said, Vance does have the charisma of the dog crap on my shoe. But these guys who sponsor him must see something I don’t, besides his unapologetic authoritarian aspirations. I don’t think he would win the election if he had to run now, but i don’t think he is going to have to.

[direwolf]

You guys actually think the MAGA cult is gonna suddenly rally behind Vance if Trump croaks? C'mon now. I agree that Vance is probably a lot smarter than Trump, but as Missdpuck mentioned above, the guy has the charisma of dog s*** and has nowhere near the mass following that Trump has.


Currently the right is totally unified under a cult leader who their supporters have elevated to God-like status. If Trump was suddenly gone, I think they would completely fracture into different factions and things would get incredibly messy. There's no one in the current administration or anyone behind the scenes who has the cult of personality that Trump has.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Reminder that while Trump dying is great cause one less pedo in the world is always a good thing, Vance could be significantly worse.

Trump dying mean the cult of personality dies with him. MAGA won't outright die with it but it will splinter great and provide the country with some breathing room. When/if the Dems get in power again they need to hold people accountable. No time to move on, no time to heal. Prosecute the sedationists, the treasonous etc. If Donald Trump is dead, so after his family harder.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Locke

And here I was anticipating some wacky 'Weekend at Bernies' shenaniganery!

Yeah, you anticipate that insane old reference every now and then

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by direwolf

You guys actually think the MAGA cult is gonna suddenly rally behind Vance if Trump croaks? C'mon now. I agree that Vance is probably a lot smarter than Trump, but as Missdpuck mentioned above, the guy has the charisma of dog s*** and has nowhere near the mass following that Trump has.


Currently the right is totally unified under a cult leader who their supporters have elevated to God-like status. If Trump was suddenly gone, I think they would completely fracture into different factions and things would get incredibly messy. There's no one in the current administration or anyone behind the scenes who has the cult of personality that Trump has.

You are missing the fact that the cult is irrelevant. The people in power used them, and now don't need them. That's why they have released the leopards. Ignoring the rule of law isn't just for subjecting progressives, they'll use it on MAGa just as strong as they use it against LGBTQ people.


They don't fear losing the next election, and you don't have to ponder very long why.

[Fuzz]

LOL


https://bsky.app/profile/georgetakei.../3lxnleo2eaq24

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Trump dying mean the cult of personality dies with him. MAGA won't outright die with it but it will splinter great and provide the country with some breathing room. When/if the Dems get in power again they need to hold people accountable. No time to move on, no time to heal. Prosecute the sedationists, the treasonous etc. If Donald Trump is dead, so after his family harder.

You are mistaking Trump as the disease and not just the symptom. Trump's "personality" is that he just says all the insane things the majority of the GOP base believes. That he lies with impunity. That he constantly pits the base against "the others". He's not doing anything special other than removing the filter and self-censorship. You don't think a Vance or some other lackey can just go up there and say "Mexicans are rapists" or just spew a stream of (un)consciousness rant full of lies and stupidity? It may not come as naturally as it does with Trump, but you can already see in Vance that lying and being a twat aren't all that difficult to do. He was deified by the cult for his performance against Zelensky, so I don't think it will be hard to keep that approach going.

The notion we we will see the GOP splinter after Trump's death is a nice thought, but I don't see it. Will we see a power struggle to see who takes over the cult? Perhaps. But the reason the GOP is even in position to create a fascist government is because they always fall in line. Are the Susan "I'm Concerned" Collins of the world gonna help lead them back to the middle? Give me a break lol. You also have to remember that even though the base of the GOP are dumb#### trailer trash, they are augmented by rich people who just want tax cuts. The base and the wealthy aren't suddenly splintering, they'll unite when the time comes, as always.

And the bolded is, of course, the buried lede. You think Gavin Newsom is coming to the rescue? Lol, he can't win an election anymore than Hillary or Kamala could. Dems are in the worst shape they have ever been. They've shown nothing that suggests they have the ability to take advantage of any possible GOP infighting. Until the Dems can show they want to actually win elections again as anything other than "We're not the GOP!", there's nothing to really discuss here.

And, as Fuzz correctly points out, the game is already rigged. So even if the cult falls apart the GOP have built-in failsafe's to stay in power. And say what you will about Trump, but he's insane and actually did do something like run Elon off. Vance, or another puppet, would never do such a thing, they'd bend the knee to Elon, Thiel, or whoever else is really running things. Which is why I think it could a lot worse with a competent, controllable puppet.

[FlamesAddiction]

It depends how he dies to some extent IMO. I would really want to avoid a situation where they make him a martyr.

[BigThief]

Well lol I'm not mistaken about anything since I didn't mention any disease stuff but okay. The only way MEGA gets stronger is if they see Trump as a Martyr and continue to hold him up as Christ like, which isn't out of the realm of possibility. Not once did I claim that that solves whats ailing America but things will be better with him gone, no doubt about it. This is where dealing with the cult and not just "moving on and letting the country heal" is important. If Trump dies and the Dems and strangle any sort of power back they need to deal with the problem, because it won't just fade away with Trump gone.

[Senator Clay Davis]

You know you're talking about the Democrat Party of America, right? "Move on and heal" is literally their motto. They don't have the heart to do what should be done.