It's not entirely theirs. You can't use that space at takeoff and landing, and are supposed to put it up at meal service, indicating it is infringing on the other's use of the space during that time. It can also make it extremely difficult to access the space under the seat in front of you, if you need to get anything. Basically impossible if you are stuck in a middle seat and the seat in front is reclined.
Ideally they'd recline a small amount, given the lack of space available today. It was fine back when you had plenty of gap between them, but now that it is a cattle car, perhaps the deep recline should be more limited. Ultimately this is an airline created issue, and we are left to navigate it.
Like you said there are specific times when that seats are in specific positions. In all other times the reclined space is the person in the front seats space.
There is nothing to navigate here. If you wish to pay for more room pay for more room. That you are in a middle seat suggests that you did not want to pay for more room. An airline trip has become a commodity where you get exactly what you pay for and no more.
Like you said there are specific times when that seats are in specific positions. In all other times the reclined space is the person in the front seats space.
There is nothing to navigate here. If you wish to pay for more room pay for more room. That you are in a middle seat suggests that you did not want to pay for more room. An airline trip has become a commodity where you get exactly what you pay for and no more.
I wasn't in a middle seat, I was using it as an example. But I often am in a middle seat because my wife likes the window. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to be able to access a small bag you have under the seat in front of you, but that's again, more the airlines doing it. Maybe middle seats shouldn't recline. And I wasn't really bothered, other than screen hand molester guy, though I did feel for the guy next to me who had a 5 year old in front of him that spent half the flight leaning forward then throwing himself backward as much as humanly possible. He was trying to watch Dunkirk though, so perhaps that added to the realism.
I think it would be fascinating to know how tall all the "I'll recline into my space whenever I want, and you can deal with it" folks are. I suspect they are Too Tall, and wonder how they feel about people that are too wide encroaching on their sideways space. I'm an everyday normal size person, so I feel my opinions are less biased and more correct.
*reminder, this is the GG thread, we are just having fun here!
I think it would be fascinating to know how tall all the "I'll recline into my space whenever I want, and you can deal with it" folks are. I suspect they are Too Tall, and wonder how they feel about people that are too wide encroaching on their sideways space. I'm an everyday normal size person, so I feel my opinions are less biased and more correct.
*reminder, this is the GG thread, we are just having fun here!
I think you’re the only one here who reclines their seat, or has actually said they do.
I think the answer, if we're ignoring Zeppelins, is pretty clear.
There needs to be a dedicated airline for all the 'Big & Tall' freaks where they can get crammed onto a plane like the Japanese cramming people onto trains and then the rest of us normies can travel in relative comfort.
Problem. Solved.
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I’m a 100% seat recliner. It’s far more comfortable for everyone. I’m also tall so my opinion matters.
Me too, I recline every time and I’m 6’. It’s more comfortable and everyone on the plane can do it. It also reclines like 5 degrees so if you can’t stand up without touching the seat in front you it’s time to hit the gym. Those same people probably pronounce breakfast like “breffis”.
We need to return to the glory of train travel. If I win the lottery I'm buying my own Pullman sleeper car.
I rode several trains in France and Germany, and other than the desperate need for a shower after the Paris metro, I agree. Free wifi, bring your own food, walk on with your own bags and just dump them in the bag spot. So quick and easy. Buy your tickets on your phone and scan with that. Esims have made this all really easy, too. I had my 3 connection Paris ticket bought the day before and it tells you where to walk and when to be there. I hate to sound like Polak, but a lot of Europe has this #### figured out.
All correct but I hate conflict of any sort because it will consume me for the flight and for years after so best avoid that by being slightly less comfortable in the now. Back in the day no one gave a crap about the recline. And if you need to grab the headrest, have two less cheeseburgers after midnight.
Conflict consumes you for years? LOL I don’t like it either but I’m over it in a couple of minutes.
You know what cures all this, my dear friends in Ativan land. It is a flying revelation. I did not care about anything. Gin and tonic and an Ativan. It was unreal how nice it was. I didn’t want to get off the plane.
Also, edibles.
But watching the propeller belch black smoke on the tarmac, then finding out our flight was cancelled until later that day, meaning I'd be missing my Mexico City connector to Medellin (where I know people) and would be staying in Mexico City overnight now (where I know no-one and don't speak spanish) on my first solo intercontinental trip, was a lot to take in right as the edibles were just kicking in...
I probably looked like the dude tripping balls at the start of Super Troopers in that moment.
But watching the propeller belch black smoke on the tarmac, then finding out our flight was cancelled until later that day, meaning I'd be missing my Mexico City connector to Medellin (where I know people) and would be staying in Mexico City overnight now (where I know no-one and don't speak spanish) on my first solo intercontinental trip, was a lot to take in right as the edibles were just kicking in...
I probably looked like the dude tripping balls at the start of Super Troopers in that moment.
Snozzberries taste like snozzberries!!
That dude was married to Christina Hendricks for a decade...
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