2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Batinga.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

And that is all fine, and he is free to have his opinions, as we all are. But that doesn't preclude a bias - the simple fact of the matter, event to just about anyone that has followed him for a while - is that his opinions are ALWAYS less positive about Flames players. It may be random coincidence, but it very much appears as though there is a bias there, as every opinion he holds on Flames' prospects, seems less positive than those of the field.

It isn't the negative assessment, it's that his assessments of the Flames are consistently skewed to the negative.

There could be, but I also think that all fan bases think that commentators, analysists, etc are biased against their team.
I think it's more interesting to understand why he ranks the team where he does, than just dismissing it all as some sort of personal beef against the Flames.

[GioforPM]

List leaves off Basha. Maybe I'm influenced by highlight reels but he's always looked good. And maybe he's buddies with Mckenna.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

There could be, but I also think that all fan bases think that commentators, analysists, etc are biased against their team.
I think it's more interesting to understand why he ranks the team where he does, than just dismissing it all as some sort of personal beef against the Flames.

Which has been discussed, and acknowledged. But it is also apparent to many that there is a pattern with this person. It has been discussed here countless times - pretty much every time he issues anything pertaining to the Flames. We can dismiss it each time as fan paranoia, but at some point, the pattern becomes hard to dismiss, no?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Royle9

We knew all along Andersson was gone, we've been saying it for months.
Unfortunately the timing has been poor and a few nixed trades have thrown a wrench into it but I've been saying since the deadline last year that priority #1 is moving Andersson and he was never going to sign here again (unless we wanted to overpay him substantially)

Too bad they didn’t hit it last offseason

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Which has been discussed, and acknowledged. But it is also apparent to many that there is a pattern with this person. It has been discussed here countless times - pretty much every time he issues anything pertaining to the Flames. We can dismiss it each time as fan paranoia, but at some point, the pattern becomes hard to dismiss, no?

Personally I don't think he has a bias against the Flames. I think the overall coverage of the Flames by the Athletic is poor, and has been since Slavin stopped covering the team.
But no I don't think there is an established pattern of Pronman having some sort of weird bias against the Flames specifically.

[Knut]

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/connor-mcdavi...sion-1.2351875

Edmonton Oilers star Connor McDavid has yet to discuss dollars or term on a contract extension with the Edmonton Oilers, according to TSN's Ryan Rishaug.

Rishaug reports that McDavid and his agent, Judd Moldaver, are working through what the options are and what the ask will look like.

McDavid, who is expected to speak Wednesday while attending Hockey Canada's National Teams Orientation Camp in Calgary, became eligible to sign a new deal on July 1, but said in June he was feeling no rush to get a deal done.

Oh boy do I ever hope this is one giant #### show in Edmonton

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Here is the next batch of teams in the Pipeline rankings from Pronman.
For me, a lot of these teams are all in one big blob in the middle, and where you rank them depends on how you evaluate specific prospects.

#16 Blues: Pronman very high on Snuggerud and feels he's already established. I would say the Flames have a similar player in Bison, but seems like Pronman like Snuggerud a little more.
#15 Caps: On the strength of their top guys: Leonard, Huston and Miroshnichenko. I love Leonard but overall I would put the Flames ahead of the Caps.
#14 Wild: This is all about Buium. Pronman clearly values him higher than Zayne. I would put the Flames above Minny because I think they are similar prospects and I like the rest of the Flames system a little more.
#13 Buffalo: Important point here is that Power is still included. That's really why they sit here. Absent that, I think the Flames are above them.
#12 NJD: Again, the key thing here is guys like L. Hughes, and Nemec are still included in the ranking criteria. After those prospects, their pipeline isn't that great, except for Silayev who is a complete wild ard
#11 Detroit: Edvinnson, Kasper included. Danielson the #1 rank guy. But again the key theme is the inclusion of young established NHLers.
#10 Nashville: This is one I truly don't get. Their top guys are Martin, Edstrom, Molendyk, Cam Reid. I nice group but I don't think there is a single elite guy there. #10 seems high. Not even relative to the Flames, just high overall. This one puzzles me.
#9 NYI: Schaefer. Enough said. Though a top 5 of Schaefer, Eklund, Aitcheson, Ritchie and then Eiserman (at #8) is pretty damn good.

Yep, Calgary falls in his rankings because they're missing that 20-22 year old NHL star, and he undervalues a few pieces more than some other rankers, but his rationale is fine even if I disagree with it.

Nashville's pipeline seems to be well respected. Kind of like Calgary's where they may not have two + buzzy high-end guys, but a lot of people like what they're doing (Wheeler had them 8th in February, Steve Ellis has them two behind Calgary at 12 and that Iacoban has them up at 4).

They've got some serious potential with Wood, Molendyk, Edstrom, Reid, Martin and a few other players.

Hmmmm... there's a chance that roster bounces back to start this year. Feels like they could really use a right handed defender if they come out hot. They have the prospect base to trade from.

[Toast_Man]

Some more details from Nick's rankings.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Which has been discussed, and acknowledged. But it is also apparent to many that there is a pattern with this person. It has been discussed here countless times - pretty much every time he issues anything pertaining to the Flames. We can dismiss it each time as fan paranoia, but at some point, the pattern becomes hard to dismiss, no?

Last year before the NHL draft, he ranked Parekh 9th, two tiers behind four of the top six defenders.

He ranked Gridin 34, Basha 87 and Misa wasn't even in his top 129.

It's not a bias against the Flames as he didn't know the Flames would draft those four guys; he just doesn't seem to value the same things that the Flames value and that's reflected in his follow-up rankings.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Knut

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/connor-mcdavi...sion-1.2351875



Oh boy do I ever hope this is one giant #### show in Edmonton

If I'm him the ask is $19M x 8 or $17M x 2.

I'll take a little less on a shorter term, or you can give me the Max contract for the full 8 years.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Personally I don't think he has a bias against the Flames. I think the overall coverage of the Flames by the Athletic is poor, and has been since Slavin stopped covering the team.
But no I don't think there is an established pattern of Pronman having some sort of weird bias against the Flames specifically.

It's been a running joke on the podcast that every fanbase thinks he hates their team.

I think the bias falls more on the fanbases than Pronman. I don't always agree with all his takes, but he comes across very humble on the Atheltic podcast, something that doesn't always translate into his writing.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

It's been a running joke on the podcast that every fanbase thinks he hates their team.

I think the bias falls more on the fanbases than Pronman. I don't always agree with all his takes, but he comes across very humble on the Atheltic podcast, something that doesn't always translate into his writing.

I don’t get why people care even if he had some kind of bias. It’s just an opinion of one guy. Prospect rankings are fun but they are more of an exercise to argue around than having real value.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don’t get why people care even if he had some kind of bias. It’s just an opinion of one guy. Prospect rankings are fun but they are more of an exercise to argue around than having real value.

Right? Theres no reason to call him an idiot because he thinks differently about a player than you do. It's just fun stuff. He's fine, he isn't out to get Flames fans.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don’t get why people care even if he had some kind of bias. It’s just an opinion of one guy. Prospect rankings are fun but they are more of an exercise to argue around than having real value.

And this is what people are doing - and discussing the various people who do the rankings, is part of that fun discussion. I don't think anyone particularly 'cares'.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Royle9

We knew all along Andersson was gone, we've been saying it for months.
Unfortunately the timing has been poor and a few nixed trades have thrown a wrench into it but I've been saying since the deadline last year that priority #1 is moving Andersson and he was never going to sign here again (unless we wanted to overpay him substantially)

Those nixxed trades are going to bite the Flames in the butt.
Razz better have a stellar year.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

And this is what people are doing - and discussing the various people who do the rankings, is part of that fun discussion. I don't think anyone particularly 'cares'.

Eh calling the guy a joke and that he has a perpetual bias against the Flames strays away a good discussion imo.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Those nixxed trades are going to bite the Flames in the butt.
Razz better have a stellar year.

My baseline for his trade value is still the Hanifin return. Anything above that was always going to be gravy.

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1960758681701900477

[Jiri Hrdina]

Man. McDavid on Team Canada makes it way less fun to root for them.