Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[TheIronMaiden]

Needless gross hardcore spots to AEW is run ins to WWE.

What is wrong with wrestlers going over clean.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Needless gross hardcore spots to AEW is run ins to WWE.

What is wrong with wrestlers going over clean.

It's frustrating being a wrestling fan these days. No one goes over 100% clean. Everything ends with interference, a ref bump, a foreign weapon, or some kind of controversial cluster##### finish. There's no need for it anyway. Wrestlers are so over with the crowd these days, taking the occasional pin isn't going to hurt them. Jey Uso, Sami, and Owens lose all the time, yet it doesn't stunt their popularity. Meanwhile the top guys never lose clean, or in AEW you have to hit 14 piledrivers onto a table to win a match.

Everything is overbooked to the point where the actual wrestling is less interesting than the story itself. I challenge anyone to remember the last time a main event PPV match ended 100% clean with one finisher. It probably hasn't occured since Taker retired. False finishes are great! I just hate seeing finishing moves being completely devalued to the point where rollups are winning more matches.

[CaptainCrunch]

Someday I'll write a top 10 of annoying booking practices in wrestling

[Muta]

One of the tropes I have always found the most annoying in wrestling is a wrestler or groups of wrestlers gathering and waiting outside the ring for an awkward amount of time to take a bump from someone doing flippy #### off the turnbuckle.

More logically, why not just instantly move out of the way and let Flippy McFliperson splatter all over the ground? I get it's scripted, but at least make us believe its somewhat realistic...

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Muta

One of the tropes I have always found the most annoying in wrestling is a wrestler or groups of wrestlers gathering and waiting outside the ring for an awkward amount of time to take a bump from someone doing flippy #### off the turnbuckle.

More logically, why not just instantly move out of the way and let Flippy McFliperson splatter all over the ground? I get it's scripted, but at least make us believe its somewhat realistic...

The biggest issue with some of the coolest looking moves is the amount of help needed by your opponent to make them work. Even stuff that's been around for ages like the superplex feels silly sometimes... But damn do I love a good superplex

[TheIronMaiden]

Yeah a good superplex now a sloppy one that takes minutes to set up.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Muta

One of the tropes I have always found the most annoying in wrestling is a wrestler or groups of wrestlers gathering and waiting outside the ring for an awkward amount of time to take a bump from someone doing flippy #### off the turnbuckle.

More logically, why not just instantly move out of the way and let Flippy McFliperson splatter all over the ground? I get it's scripted, but at least make us believe its somewhat realistic...

Mine is finishing moves from the top rope. They don't make sense. the other guy is laying there prone... and unmoving... in the middle of the ring so you decide to climb to the top rope, maybe preen to the crowd for a sec, and then do your move? You could have pinned the prone guy for a three count 3 or 4 times minimum in the time it took you to do that. I get that I'm supposed to suspend disbelief but the amount of "man that was cool" needed to get me to do that for those moves is rarely ever met.

The best finishers are moves that require little to no visual set-up and top rope onto prone are the exact opposite of that.

[darockwilder]

My least favorite moves are ones where the wrester doesn't even look where he's going to land. Case in point, Hangman's moonsault to the outside off the top. He climbs up, stands there a second, and then flips backwards. Never ever takes even a peek. Totally takes me out the match, like if you were going to do something even remotely similar in real life, wouldn't you want to confirm your target was anywhere close?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Everything is overbooked to the point where the actual wrestling is less interesting than the story itself. I challenge anyone to remember the last time a main event PPV match ended 100% clean with one finisher. It probably hasn't occured since Taker retired. False finishes are great! I just hate seeing finishing moves being completely devalued to the point where rollups are winning more matches.

It still had a run in and weapons but it's funny because even in the Cena-Rhodes WM match there was the narrative of "that's all it took to pin Cody!$!$!"

Because I think it was one AA and him getting hit with the title that ended the match.

Then at Summerslam they had a 40 minute match where they hit every move known to mankind and kicked out of everything including like 8 AAs and an Avalanche AA, and it gets called one of the greatest matches ever.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It still had a run in and weapons but it's funny because even in the Cena-Rhodes WM match there was the narrative of "that's all it took to pin Cody!$!$!"

Because I think it was one AA and him getting hit with the title that ended the match.

Then at Summerslam they had a 40 minute match where they hit every move known to mankind and kicked out of everything including like 8 AAs and an Avalanche AA, and it gets called one of the greatest matches ever.

At least it was the second match in a nearly year long feud.

[Yanda]

Suprized no one is talking about Raja Jackson/Syko Stu

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Yanda

Suprized no one is talking about Raja Jackson/Syko Stu

This is a wrestling thread, not a snuff thread.