The 2025 Offseason thread.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Why do you have Honzek on the roster instead of Kirkland?

For me it would be two things:
1) I am hopeful that Honzek outplays Kirkland and earns the spot, which may or may not happen again but he did do it last camp
2) Kirkland plays C and Honzek plays W. If Zary is going to get an honest shot at C then Kirkland is #5 on the C depth chart (Kadri, Frost, Zary, Backlund, Kirkland)

If Honzek doesn't make the team then I would expect Lomberg to slot in, not Kirkland.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What's better for his development - playing 4th line winger minutes or playing a ton for a full season, in all situations, including at center in the AHL?

It seems like the assumption is that Kirkland is the 4th line center, taking on the Rooney role, at least to start the year.

In my mind it only makes sense if you balance out the minutes for the bottom 3 lines.

Backlund and Frost's lines would split shutdown duty against the other team's top lines. Kadri and Zary's lines would split offensive duty (with Kadri getting priority).

Actually, when I say it like that it makes me think about flipping the wingers:

Offensive lines:
Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Farabee-Zary-Sharangovich

Shutdown lines:
Pospisil-Frost-Klapka
Honzek-Backlund-Coleman

[The Cobra]

Don't forget how good Kirkland is on shootouts.

He'll get the benefit of the doubt if its close.

[Kipper_3434]

Kirkland and lomberg should be the 13th and 14th forwards on a healthy roster.

[Vinny01]

I wonder if the Flames should start the year with Weegar on the left side and play him with Anderson to try and juice Rasmus numbers? Conroy was also unable to improve the left side despite trying for Miller, Hague, and Byram.

Weegar-Andersson
Bahl-Parekh
Hanley-Pachal

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I wonder if the Flames should start the year with Weegar on the left side and play him with Anderson to try and juice Rasmus numbers? Conroy was also unable to improve the left side despite trying for Miller, Hague, and Byram.

Weegar-Andersson
Bahl-Parekh
Hanley-Pachal

Conroy will do what he thinks is best for winning.

And separating them is likely best.

Playing Andersson on the PP with Parekh might be what might juice his numbers.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Conroy will do what he thinks is best for winning.

And separating them is likely best.

Playing Andersson on the PP with Parekh might be what might juice his numbers.

This team is heavy on the right side and weak on the left. I think Pachal and Parekh in the lineup over Bean and Hanley in the top 4 makes the team better.

Get Andersson with Weegar for 15 games and hopefully Rasmus could rebuild his value a bit after the -38 year? NHL is largely about what have you done for me lately.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I wonder if the Flames should start the year with Weegar on the left side and play him with Anderson to try and juice Rasmus numbers? Conroy was also unable to improve the left side despite trying for Miller, Hague, and Byram.

Weegar-Andersson
Bahl-Parekh
Hanley-Pachal

Last season Weegar got more offensive zone starts and more play time with Kadri and Huberdeau while Andersson got more defensive assignments with Backlund and Coleman.

You do not need to put Andersson with Weegar, what you need to do is put Andersson with forwards who will score at times when scoring is more likely (O-zone starts).

Bahl-Weegar
Kuznetsov-Andersson
Hanley-Pachal/Parekh

Parekh shouldn't start on the 2nd pair and we shouldn't expect him to play 82 games. If you look at a comparable player like Schneider on the Rangers (1st round selection in 2020) his first season as a 19-20 year old (D+2) was 43 games.

That is not to say that Parekh won't play 82 games, he may exceed expectations and do just that, but it would be irresponsible for that to be the plan.

As for Kuznetsov, you can put Hanley there with Andersson but I feel like Kuznetsov has the potential to be better than Hanley in short order. Also, Kuznetsov's defensive style may allow Andersson to take more offensive risks.

[WickerChicken]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I think Coronato is going to get that top line spot to start the season. Also, if you are pushing a youth movement then Hanley shouldn't be a lock for Weegar's partner.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Farabee-Frost-Sharangovich (Snakebit line)
Pospisil-Zary-Klapka (Pest line)
Honzek-Backlund-Coleman (Shutdown line with the rookie-whisperer)
X: Lomberg

Bahl-Weegar (top coverage assignments, D zone starts)
Kuznetsov-Andersson (offensive assignment)
Solovyov-Parekh/Pachal
X: Pachal, Hanley

In the forward group I think you would essentially run with a top line and then 3 balanced lines behind. The second line would be really interesting as those guys all had poor production last year and need to help each other succeed.

In the D group, you need to put Bahl and Weegar on the shutdown assignments that Andersson had last year. Push Andersson into a more offensive role being deployed with the Kadri line and boost his stats to get the trade. Hanley can play 7th D and sub in for Kuznetsov or Solovyov as they adjust to the NHL and Pachal can split duty with Parekh until Andersson is traded. (As excited as I am about Parekh, most 19 year old rookie D do not play a full season. 50-60 games is a good target)

Ultimately, the team has too many bodies. Kirkland, Bean, and Miromanov would all need to go the Wranglers to start. Otherwise you are risking losing Kuznetsov on waivers in order to have more Bean.... which is not a good asset management decision IMO.

I really like these lines to start the season. I agree—we have too many players. Ideally, the team will move on those who no longer fit its needs or vision for the future, making room next year for younger talent and turning some existing assets into difference-makers. Right now, it feels like we have a roster of second, third, and fourth lines, which is to be expected in a retool/rebuild.

[Goriders]

So looks like no trades happening as we are getting pretty close to the start of the season and all of the rumour mill targets seem to be resigning with their teams.

Big questions for me are WTH is going to happen with Zary and how are they possibly going to stickhandle the Andersson situation.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by Goriders

So looks like no trades happening as we are getting pretty close to the start of the season and all of the rumour mill targets seem to be resigning with their teams.

Big questions for me are WTH is going to happen with Zary and how are they possibly going to stickhandle the Andersson situation.

Zary is going to sign. He has no leverage and he can't afford to miss camp.

At this point i think its most likely Andersson is a deadline deal. He could be traded, but the number of buyers are low. Unless Conroy recieves an offer better then he expects at the deadline then he will keep him for his value on the roster. As for the PR stuff, its most likely going to be the usual PR deflection we have seen before.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Goriders

So looks like no trades happening as we are getting pretty close to the start of the season and all of the rumour mill targets seem to be resigning with their teams.

Big questions for me are WTH is going to happen with Zary and how are they possibly going to stickhandle the Andersson situation.

Said it a couple times, but RFA negotiations going into late august/early September isn't out of the ordinary and certainly not a "what the hell is going on!" thing at this stage. It'll get done.

[Canada 02]

Projecting the Flames to be a 72 point team, and finishing 31st

https://twitter.com/user/status/1960779147426296138

https://twitter.com/user/status/1960713220504588369

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Well that sure would line us up nicely to lose the lottery anyway and draft 4th overall.

[Toonage]

Even if the Flames were to lose out on McKenna (we all know he's going to Pittsburgh) this is still apparently a great draft to get a top 5 pick. Top 10 even.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Projecting the Flames to be a 72 point team, and finishing 31st

Sounds like what they said last offseason.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Sounds like what they said last offseason.

Honestly, that's what I thought last year. You never know.

Montreal rioting after seeing this projection?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Even if the Flames were to lose out on McKenna (we all know he's going to Pittsburgh) this is still apparently a great draft to get a top 5 pick. Top 10 even.

But of course it's not a good draft for centers.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the Flames suffer a major step back this season. If Wolf has any sort of sophomore slump, that in and of itself could do it.

But I had them bottom 5 last season and was dead wrong so who knows.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Even if the Flames were to lose out on McKenna (we all know he's going to Pittsburgh) this is still apparently a great draft to get a top 5 pick. Top 10 even.

They won't be that bad, but even if the Flames were the last place team all season, they would lose the lottery 100% guaranteed. This team always catches the worst luck.

If Rasmus was gone all year and the team moved players like Coleman, Backlund etc I could see it, but the current roster isn't that bad.

[NewFan]

For the Calgary Flames to make the playoffs, many thing need to be going their way, like best performance from key players, strong defense, effective special teams, and minimal injuries.
But only a couple of factors could lead to the Flames finishing in the bottom 10. Especially if the team trade Andersson and/or other veteran player, I hope they pick top 5 in the end of next season.