So now it is a strike and that officially moves it to not within their control so the compensation changes apparently. I would think prior to today it’s different but now you would be screwed and only refund.
My understanding is for people affected after the strike has officially started, they won't be eligible for the extra compensation but AC still has to rebook them on their dime, not just refund
It’s true though: Air Canada isn’t happy until you’re not happy.
Last time I was in Athens there was a general strike and the army was moving folk in and out of the airport. Odd memory was ordering beer in Wendy’s to say we did on the way to a Greek restaurant. Also beer was cheaper than bottled water on the islands.
Good luck to the OP.
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I’m in a similar situation. Supposed to be flying home from Venice on Tuesday. I would recommend checking out the air passenger rights page on Facebook. Gabor (the guy who’s always interviewed about flight issues) has posts with lots of info. He says to wait for AC to rebook you. If they say they can’t, document everything, buy your own flight at that point, and then demand they reimburse you. Sue them if they don’t.
I booked a refundable flight with KLM because I can’t afford to hang out in Europe for a week, waiting to see what Air Canada will do. I’ll see what they offer and make a final decision on Tuesday.
Looks like the feds have caved and ordered binding arbitration. Good to know that our constitutional right to freedom of association is good for about twelve hours.
Looks like the feds have caved and ordered binding arbitration. Good to know that our constitutional right to freedom of association is good for about twelve hours.
Happily, it looks like they're doing what the WestJet AMEs did last year and continuing the strike anyway.
I have a canceled flight and was just in YYZ trying to figure it out saw just absolute chaos on the non-AC areas.. probably an international flight coming in and then all the connections being canceled or something like that.
Still stranded in Toronto. I'm mad at AC but I just want to go home (without paying $1500 a ticket).
I think the union is refusing binding arbitration because they are asking for something (100% pay for every minute worked) that currently doesn’t exist anywhere in the North American aviation sector for flight attendants.
They want to establish precedent which seems pretty unlikely in arbitration.
This is obviously much different than just paying pilots higher wages - aka the last near labour dispute:
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I have a canceled flight and was just in YYZ trying to figure it out saw just absolute chaos on the non-AC areas.. probably an international flight coming in and then all the connections being canceled or something like that.
Still stranded in Toronto. I'm mad at AC but I just want to go home (without paying $1500 a ticket).
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I think the union is refusing binding arbitration because they are asking for something (100% pay for every minute worked) that currently doesn’t exist anywhere in the North American aviation sector for flight attendants.
They want to establish precedent which seems pretty unlikely in arbitration.
This is obviously much different than just paying pilots higher wages - aka the last near labour dispute:
Unreal the demands they have.
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This is the way virtually all airline crew get paid. Meanwhile the hourly wages are high to reflect that, so their compensation should be judged on their yearly salary. Airline crews could go to a system of pay for all hours worked, but hourly wages would likely need to drop, and CUPE probably isn’t interested in that.
It might make some sense to change the entire pay structure, but they want to keep the best of both worlds.
This is the way virtually all airline crew get paid. Meanwhile the hourly wages are high to reflect that, so their compensation should be judged on their yearly salary. Airline crews could go to a system of pay for all hours worked, but hourly wages would likely need to drop, and CUPE probably isn’t interested in that.
It might make some sense to change the entire pay structure, but they want to keep the best of both worlds.
This is what it comes down to ^.
AC “we pay a higher hourly rate to acknowledge and compensate for all time worked. Happy to lower your hourly wage and have it reflect every single hour worked”
Union “lol of course we want a raise and that raise to apply to every hour worked. Have you ever seen a union wanting to drop hourly pay for existing employees?”
This is the way virtually all airline crew get paid. Meanwhile the hourly wages are high to reflect that, so their compensation should be judged on their yearly salary. Airline crews could go to a system of pay for all hours worked, but hourly wages would likely need to drop, and CUPE probably isn’t interested in that.
It might make some sense to change the entire pay structure, but they want to keep the best of both worlds.
What’s the annual wage of a typical flight attendant and what are the average real hours worked if you said any time they are mandated to be somewhere counted as work like other jobs.
