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Old 08-08-2025, 08:31 AM   #5081
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Happy 21st anniversary to this

On August 8, 2004, a tour bus belonging to Dave Matthews Band dumped an estimated 800 pounds (360 kg) of human waste from the bus's blackwater tank through the Kinzie Street Bridge in Chicago onto
an open-top passenger sightseeing boat sailing in the Chicago River below. The incident became popularly known as the Dave Matthews Band incident! or Poopgate.
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Happy 21st anniversary to this

On August 8, 2004, a tour bus belonging to Dave Matthews Band dumped an estimated 800 pounds (360 kg) of human waste from the bus's blackwater tank through the Kinzie Street Bridge in Chicago onto
an open-top passenger sightseeing boat sailing in the Chicago River below. The incident became popularly known as the Dave Matthews Band incident! or Poopgate.
Forgot about that!

I can't find records or articles of any lawsuit filed by the 120 passengers that went to trial or resulted in a published settlement. Surely the band got hammered, but what surprises me if none of it got out after such a high-profile incident.

Just a $200k settlement with the state, two $50k donations by the band, and a $10k fine for the bus driver.
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Old 08-11-2025, 09:30 AM   #5083
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I’m planning on taking the Southern route from Osoyoos back to Calgary. Does anyone have any good hotel recommendations for a good halfway point to stay the night?
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Old 08-11-2025, 09:43 AM   #5084
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I’m planning on taking the Southern route from Osoyoos back to Calgary. Does anyone have any good hotel recommendations for a good halfway point to stay the night?

Taking the number 3? I don’t know about hotels, but Creston is a fun stop. More wineries / cider, breweries (Wild North) and fruit, if you’re not already overloaded from Osoyoos. Hit Two Scoop Steve’s when you get to Yahk as well.
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If you want to pay $350 for a $200 room try the best western in Fernie.
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Old 08-11-2025, 11:13 AM   #5086
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I’m planning on taking the Southern route from Osoyoos back to Calgary. Does anyone have any good hotel recommendations for a good halfway point to stay the night?
I would probably stay in Cranbrook if that's close enough to Calgary for you - best bang for your buck imo. Fernie is expensive and if you want to stay in the Coleman area and its a weekend make sure you book in advance.
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I’m planning on taking the Southern route from Osoyoos back to Calgary. Does anyone have any good hotel recommendations for a good halfway point to stay the night?
Park place in Fernie is an alright but a bit dingy hotel, you’re probably looking around $250 for the night. There’s an indoor swimming pool if you’ve got kids and it’s walking distance from a bunch of decent restaurants. I’ve stayed there for work for up to a week at a time. If you’re looking for fancy or luxury, park place isn’t it. It’s clean and fair ish price wise.
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:37 PM   #5088
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Yeah depends on what you want to spend.

Most of the places in Cranbrook are the same as when I last lived there 36 years ago.

I just went through that area and would suggest the Nelson Kootenay Lake route. But if you want to spend some time in Nelson or siteseeing on the way, Creston would be a good stopping point.
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Taking the number 3? I don’t know about hotels, but Creston is a fun stop. More wineries / cider, breweries (Wild North) and fruit, if you’re not already overloaded from Osoyoos. Hit Two Scoop Steve’s when you get to Yahk as well.
Creston is lovely. We have some family there now, so we're out that way a few times a year. We've stayed at the Creston Valley Motel - older, older fixtures/fittings but clean, repaired and perfectly sufficient. I think most, if not all the rooms are kitchenettes. Very quaint little place. It is right downtown on the main drag, more or less - across from the DQ. We didn't find it noisy but YMMV.

We've also stayed at the Valley View Cabins & Events Center - it's under new ownership/management since we stayed there. But, the previous owners did major renovations to most of it & I'd imagine the new owners have completed them or will soon. We ended up in a cabin that they'd only finished reno'ing earlier that day, so we were the first guests to stay in it. Beautiful views, towering trees, lovely grounds, and pretty reasonable. It is off the main road/highway a few blocks, quite quiet.

In Creston, we go to The Mountain Barn to eat, quite often. It's on the outskirts, going toward Wynndel on the 3A. Everything is homemade, and we've never had a bad meal there. Their baked goods are excellent. Run by a Mennonite mother/daughter duo. Good coffee.

We always go to the Flamenco Farms (orchard) in Creston, if we want fruit/veg/eggs/salsa/canned items, etc - run by a Mennonite/Mexican couple and their family. Prices are reasonable, better than some places. They have a u-pick cherry orchard (raspberries too, maybe?) but the cherries will be long done by now, I'd imagine.

Two Scoop Steve's in Yahk is a favorite too - good ice cream. They were also doing limited meals last time we stopped in - soups, sandwiches, chili, etc. I found it quite good. If you're towing/camping, the provincial campground there is a lovely little spot. $21/night, no hookups, but level sites, clean, & quiet. The Moyie river runs along the backside of the campground - we try to snag one of those spots when we stay there. Take cash for the envelope, if you go. Make sure it's the provincial campground - the other one there is a dump.

If you are a cannabis user (gummies, flower, whatever), Stick & Stone in Fernie is always where we stop. They have a wide variety of product & their budtenders are very knowledgeable. We buy a bunch of gummies & some chocolates from them when we pass through - we use primarily high CBD/low THC product, only for sleep assistance/pain management and I've found some great stuff there that I've yet to find in Alberta. I don't/can't smoke anything (damaged lungs from Hypersensitivity Pneumonitis), so I can't speak to that end of things, but I can't imagine it's terrible, LOL. We stopped there several years ago, knew nothing about cannabis/CBD, just that we wanted to get some stuff for our daughter, to assist with pain relief, and we walked in, told the girl behind the counter that all we really knew was that anything over 4 mg of THC actually caused an increase in pain, so we needed the high CBD to be top of mind. She spent about an hour with us, explaining everything, showing us a wide variety of product - I think we spent about $300 and walked out with a bunch of stuff, including teas. We've gone back time and again, precisely because of that first visit and they're always excellent.

If you want super fancy in the Fernie area, look at Island Lake Lodge. You drive through the Mt Fernie Prov campground to get up to it - there's a spot on the way up where you can pull over & explore the 800+ year old giant cedars - you can hike down there from the lodge too. Good mountain biking trails all around, if you're into that.

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Wouldn't know. We save our stuff for home, and all it does is help with sleep and pain. There's no baked or buzz. I tried a MJ/THC cookie once, absolutely hated the feeling, have never done a thing since, to have that happen again. It's why I like the high CBD/CBG/cannibinoids - no psychoactive side effects. CBN has mild psychoactive effects, but probably no more than you'd get with say, a Tylenol 3, if that.
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Old 08-13-2025, 06:07 PM   #5096
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Why is it that whenever I clean the toilet, I always have to have the nastiest bowl spackling #### right after?
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Why is it that whenever I clean the toilet, I always have to have the nastiest bowl spackling #### right after?
There are bigger forces at work that we simply can't understand. Maybe we tend to clean our toilets out of guilt after recently consuming a greazy meal, which therefore causes the 'nasty bowl spackling'. More research required.
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Why is it that whenever I clean the toilet, I always have to have the nastiest bowl spackling #### right after?
Maybe it's the perfect type of exercise to loosen the bowels? Use the same movements (not at a toilet) as a 10-20 minute exercise the next time you have difficulty going?
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