[Rumour] Andersson confirms he turned down a "very good" offer from another team

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Bubba17

And half of them just burned down, again. How many times has Malibu burned now?

!!!!! GAVIN NEWSOM !!!!!

More NHL players past and present lose their homes in Kelowna wildfires than they'll ever lose in Malibu, and Kelowna doesn't have an NHL team. They chose to live there because of the weather. Tyler Seguin lost his home in a Texas Tornado . The Panthers have evacuated Hurricanes several times etc etc.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by browna

Andersson had the chance to leave like everyone else did two years ago. He committed to stay and now he wants to go, or get an overpriced long term contract to stay.

I think he wants FMV, not an overpay. And why shouldn't he, after playing his prime years for less than his production?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think he wants FMV, not an overpay. And why shouldn't he, after playing his prime years for less than his production?

Yeah the “overpay” talk is pissing me off. What they mean is, they want him to accept a discount. Of course he ain’t doing that, we aren’t close to Florida.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I realize i was thinking of the wrong year. I was thinking of the 2024 trade deadline. I don't think trading Rasmus was on the radar at all in 2023.

Backlund I think will be a deadline thing. If they aren't in the race, they will ask him if he wants to go, or if he wants to stay here to break the all games record for the club. That's how Steinberg sees it playing out and keep it in mind that he and Backlund are tight.

Brad Treliving was never going to sell for futures. He never did it before, it was never his plan. Once Conroy got in the plan changed to a rebuild. But the Flames were never going to trade any vets for futures at the 2023 deadline.

[Strange Brew]

Overpay and FMV are in the eye of the beholder. I suspect the main difference is Rasmus wants more term than Flames are prepared to offer.

I do think it’s fair to wonder if Flames could have anticipated this. Him wanting a big contract at a preferred location doesn’t make him any more selfish than almost every other NHLer, but it doesn’t mean it will work out well for the Flames either.

[The Original FFIV]

Taxes might be an issue too. California has a relative high tax rate.

Dug this up. Players have been known to use ntc clauses to block trades to teams where taxes are higher than where they are currently playing. Not the case here, but can’t blame Rasmus for not wanting to go somewhere with a high tax rate, not to mention a team that could take s big step back in 1-2 years.

https://www.straight.com/blogra/9370...-jason-demers#

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by BigThief

!!!!! GAVIN NEWSOM !!!!!

More NHL players past and present lose their homes in Kelowna wildfires than they'll ever lose in Malibu, and Kelowna doesn't have an NHL team. They chose to live there because of the weather. Tyler Seguin lost his home in a Texas Tornado . The Panthers have evacuated Hurricanes several times etc etc.

Blake Coleman?!?

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Plenty of teams will get jumpy after a slow start or an injury.
Andersson's been a very good Flame and deserves some say in where he lands. You could also say it's negotiated into his contract.
The Flames and Andersson not seeing eye-to-eye on a deal doesn't make anybody wrong or greedy. Sometimes there's just not a fit and nobody's to blame.

Yes, a player isn't a snowflake because his decision to play for certain teams includes factoring what's best for him and his family while upholding all his rights and obligations within the CBA. It takes quite an entitled fan to believe he should do otherwise because he's a professional athlete.

[Lewis_D]

Maybe his time in Stockton really did spoil the entire state of California for him.

[Royle9]

It came down to both chance for a cup (legitimate) and location to raise a young family/schooling etc.

There’s lots to dislike about U.S schooling system, you’d want to be certain with a new young family that you’re in a situation where you’re comfortable for the next 7-8 years and that wasn’t going to be the case.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

Maybe his time in Stockton really did spoil the entire state of California for him.

Ya know...I didn't think of that. There may be something there.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

Maybe his time in Stockton really did spoil the entire state of California for him.

I still think it has less to do with California and more to do with his opinion of the Kings and their ability to take a step forward instead of a step backward.

4 first round exits in a row, all of them losing to the Oilers, would be enough for me as a Flames fan to not want to jump on the Kings bandwagon.

Also, the idea that the Kings and their D group composition might not be an ideal landing place for Andersson as they have two young high profile RD in the system. At the same time, their LD depth is pretty bad... Mikey Anderson is their top LD? (IMO, LA should be trying for Byram instead of Andersson)

If Andersson wants to win a cup, I do not think LA is getting there in the next 8 years.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It came down to both chance for a cup (legitimate) and location to raise a young family/schooling etc.

There’s lots to dislike about U.S schooling system, you’d want to be certain with a new young family that you’re in a situation where you’re comfortable for the next 7-8 years and that wasn’t going to be the case.

Agreed, but for the kind of money Andersson is making, he can easily afford the best private school in the area if the public schools aren't up to standard. It's the American way.

Still, it's not a logical reason for him to turn down a deal that would pay him the kind of money he's looking for. Even in the most war torn banana republics, money solves a lot of problems.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Still, it's not a logical reason for him to turn down a deal that would pay him the kind of money he's looking for. Even in the most war torn banana republics, money solves a lot of problems.

It might be if you knew you can get the same or similar money from most every other team.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

It might be if you knew you can get the same or similar money from most every other team.

Replace the word "know" with "suspect" and that statement works. As of right now, it sounds like the market for him has dried up. I don't know that he's going to get what he wants it he continually turns down offers.

[flambers]

My guess, the Flames will ultimately move him, but as a pending free agent type of a trade. (i.e. he won't resign)

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I still think it has less to do with California and more to do with his opinion of the Kings and their ability to take a step forward instead of a step backward.

4 first round exits in a row, all of them losing to the Oilers, would be enough for me as a Flames fan to not want to jump on the Kings bandwagon.

Also, the idea that the Kings and their D group composition might not be an ideal landing place for Andersson as they have two young high profile RD in the system. At the same time, their LD depth is pretty bad... Mikey Anderson is their top LD? (IMO, LA should be trying for Byram instead of Andersson)

If Andersson wants to win a cup, I do not think LA is getting there in the next 8 years.

Good points. I'd suspect this is likely the case because we also know Andersson really likes it in Calgary, and if he were to waive he'd want to be going somewhere that's a sure bet for a shot at the cup - and LA probably doesn't fit those needs for the reasons you've mentioned... Especially the Oilers part!

[Sylvanfan]

The location to raise a family thing...I don't know if I really buy that Vegas be a better place than the L.A. area for what will be a very wealthy family. I mean for family activities...I think L.A. and area has a lot more to offer then what Vegas would. Even for private schools I would think the L.A. area would have a lot of options. Maybe the size of the city and how crowded it can be, and traffic works against L.A.

The competitiveness of the team I can get that. Even the taxes is something that I don't think bothers Swedish players like it does say the American ones who generally come from wealthy families. If he did turn down the Kings, I think these other factors are just secondary reasons that might have been given that didn't really matter against not being keen to join a Ken Holland run team that might be taking a step back 2 years from now.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Royle9

There’s lots to dislike about U.S schooling system, you’d want to be certain with a new young family that you’re in a situation where you’re comfortable for the next 7-8 years and that wasn’t going to be the case.

They're multi millionaires, their kids are going to private schools. I have no idea what Rasmus' reasons are for not wanting to go to LA but would be shocked if that's it.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

The location to raise a family thing...I don't know if I really buy that Vegas be a better place than the L.A. area for what will be a very wealthy family. I mean for family activities...I think L.A. and area has a lot more to offer then what Vegas would. Even for private schools I would think the L.A. area would have a lot of options. Maybe the size of the city and how crowded it can be, and traffic works against L.A.

The competitiveness of the team I can get that. Even the taxes is something that I don't think bothers Swedish players like it does say the American ones who generally come from wealthy families. If he did turn down the Kings, I think these other factors are just secondary reasons that might have been given that didn't really matter against not being keen to join a Ken Holland run team that might be taking a step back 2 years from now.

Forbes has a tax calculator

Run it and you will see that if you make $8m (prob what he will make), take home in Nevada is just over $5m. In California, it’s just over $4m. So over a 8 year contract, that’s $8m over the period of the contract that he’d be losing if he signed in LA vs LV. Kind of a no brainer.