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Old 08-04-2025, 10:26 AM   #6841
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Old 08-04-2025, 12:37 PM   #6842
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We shouldn’t focus so much on what has happened. It is better instead to evaluate the GM exclusively on what didn’t happen but was rumoured to have been a possibility of happening, maybe.

And for all the things that may or may not have happened but also definitely didn’t happen, Conroy cannot be forgiven.
And if Conroy hasn't specifically asked Kadri to waive his NMC in the last 24 hours.
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And if Conroy hasn't specifically asked Kadri to waive his NMC every 24 hours.
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Let's be a bit more realistic...the fact that Conroy didn't trade Kadri before he was appointed as GM is a massive failure that's been catastrophic to the franchise.

Although the brutal reality of this business is that a guy like Conroy who will be the guy who has to draft the higher end talent for this team since he really didn't inherit it...he's likely fired by the time that talent comes of age and becomes a higher end team.
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Old 08-04-2025, 01:42 PM   #6845
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Let's be a bit more realistic...the fact that Conroy didn't trade Kadri before he was appointed as GM is a massive failure that's been catastrophic to the franchise.

Although the brutal reality of this business is that a guy like Conroy who will be the guy who has to draft the higher end talent for this team since he really didn't inherit it...he's likely fired by the time that talent comes of age and becomes a higher end team.
With rookie GMs in mind, it will be interesting to watch how long of a leash Grier gets with the Sharks. Thus far he is 4 years in as a rookie GM and all he has really done is lose.

Sure, he's auto-drafted some high end talent at the top of the draft and he has made some good trades to add more talent in key positions (like goalie) but now he has to stop losing. He is clearly making some moves toward that end but signing Orlov and Klingberg (and snagging Leddy off of waivers) is not going to be enough to get his D group into a functional state.

Also, with all of the talk about McTavish being potentially available because he doesn't want to be stuck behind other Cs in the depth chart, how long until this happens to the Sharks?? If Celebrini and Smith solidify as their #1/#2 combo this year, then it means there is no spot for Misa to be the #1C guy, or Bystedt to be the #2. Those players will be stuck with the Sharks for a few years while their ELCs run out but then their first contract negotiation could start to look like McTavish's.

How Grier handles all of that will dramatically change how long of a leash he gets (if he even gets 3 more years).

I would guess that Conroy is watching closely to see how their situations compare even with their rebuilds/retools being so dramatically different. IMO, Conroy was dealt the much harder hand and has done some impressive work with it, all things considered. I would hope that gives him a longer leash to get the team into the next phase of his plan (5 more years?).
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Old 08-04-2025, 02:38 PM   #6846
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And if Conroy hasn't specifically asked Kadri to waive his NMC in the last 24 hours.
Anything less than Conroy kidnapping his family for leverage to force him to waive his NMC is proof that Conroy is too soft and this franchise will never care about winning.
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Old 08-04-2025, 05:58 PM   #6847
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Mike Augello (ex hockeybuzz, now thn which speaks to how far thn has fallen) speculating about Sabres being interested in Farabee given his connection to the area.

I think Farabee has more than he’s shown, not sure if we should move on from yet. Krebs mentioned as a possible piece coming back. Apart from him playing C, don’t see us having much interest (apart from maybe him wanting to play for the Flames given his connection to the area).

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Old 08-04-2025, 06:33 PM   #6848
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I don’t know where to put this, but thought it was a good summary

https://twitter.com/user/status/1952090060607889838
Some good potential depth if they can find a core to pair it with.
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Old 08-04-2025, 06:40 PM   #6849
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Krebs is at .31 PPG
Farabee is at .5 PPG including 2x20 goal seasons

Sabre's would have to add a 2nd to make it fair but I hope Conroy hangs up the phone.
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Old 08-04-2025, 06:49 PM   #6850
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I think I would be ok with a trade around Farabee for Krebs. Trading a winger for a center would probably make sense for the flames given their organizational depth at each position. Krebs is also a fourth line center which fits a positional need for this season.

Can’t decide who needs to add. Farabee’s contract isn’t great but there’s a decent chance he could return to form and be worth his AAV.
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Old 08-04-2025, 07:09 PM   #6851
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I think I would be ok with a trade around Farabee for Krebs. Trading a winger for a center would probably make sense for the flames given their organizational depth at each position. Krebs is also a fourth line center which fits a positional need for this season.

Can’t decide who needs to add. Farabee’s contract isn’t great but there’s a decent chance he could return to form and be worth his AAV.

So would I.

Farabee just adds to our long term jam at left wing. Krebs has got to be better than Rooney right?
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Old 08-04-2025, 07:17 PM   #6852
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So would I.

Farabee just adds to our long term jam at left wing. Krebs has got to be better than Rooney right?
No he doesn't. That's a bad trade for the Flames, Farabee has NHL skill, Krebs is a giant bust. Crazy talk.
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Farabee's salary doesn't look great based on his production last year, but he produced a lot of chances once he got comfortable here. I'd rather hang on to him and give it more time to see what you have. If he improves, you could have your heir apparent to Coleman and/or a far more valuable trade chip. Feels like you are selling low on him now.

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Old 08-04-2025, 07:59 PM   #6854
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No he doesn't. That's a bad trade for the Flames, Farabee has NHL skill, Krebs is a giant bust. Crazy talk.
Indeed, King, Morton or Bishop are likely better options at C than Krebs who likely wouldn't been in the league if not for the embarrassment factor on Adams for the the Eichel trade.
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Old 08-04-2025, 08:13 PM   #6855
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It would be nice to clear out a little bit of space to start introducing some of the new guys, as handy as it is to have a monopoly on bottom 6 left handers.
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Old 08-04-2025, 09:20 PM   #6856
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Thinking about this more, could really capitalize on this if Buffalo really wants Farabee. They have a bunch of waiver exempt skilled forwards that we could park on the wranglers and let them marinate a bit more. Benson/kulich/Rosen/Ostlund - some decent talent there.

Money works out and we create some immediate room for our young players and acquire some skill 1-2 years downstream. Adams has to feel some pressure to do something and we could benefit.
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Old 08-04-2025, 09:32 PM   #6857
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ya we're not getting close to any of those guys for Farabee
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Old 08-04-2025, 09:42 PM   #6858
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Sec, any more info on the Ducks chat? Would be nice to see something start moving here.
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Also, with all of the talk about McTavish being potentially available because he doesn't want to be stuck behind other Cs in the depth chart, how long until this happens to the Sharks?? If Celebrini and Smith solidify as their #1/#2 combo this year, then it means there is no spot for Misa to be the #1C guy, or Bystedt to be the #2. Those players will be stuck with the Sharks for a few years while their ELCs run out but then their first contract negotiation could start to look like McTavish)
This was my thought going into this years draft when everyone was predicting the Sharks taking Misa, it wasn't going to end well. They already had two top C, they didn't need to draft another. Now Misa is stuck behind them, limiting his playing time and his earning potential. Why is he going to be happy about that, he's not.

The Sharks should have traded that pick for a haul, or at least a player/players (cough Anderson cough) that filled in the gaps that allowed them to move forward, rather than continueing to languish at the bottom. Instead they wanted another shiny new toy, which was the wrong move imo.
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After he was traded here, Farabee had the worst puck-luck of any player in the league. As a fan of his, I hope he overcomes that this season and puts up some decent production.
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