The Tariff Thread

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by direwolf

The new tariffs only apply to goods that aren’t compliant with USMCA, so the majority of goods are still crossing the border tariff free.

I’m glad we haven’t rolled over. Canada is playing hardball and our officials are saying they’re in no rush to sign a deal at the last second just to meet Trump’s stupid deadline. And rightfully so, considering we’re their most important trading partner. Negotiations will no doubt continue in the meantime.

And I see that he’s now gone back to the fentanyl bulls*** as his excuse again, which he hasn’t mentioned in months. What a f’n loser. He’s probably just mad that his entire reason for the tariffs in the first place are likely going to be struck down in court again, as the Trump administration’s appeal is still awaiting a decision.

He did use fentanyl as reasoning/an excuse in early July when talking about imposing tariffs on Canada.

July 10
Trump threatens in a letter posted on his Truth Social platform to boost the tariff on Canadian goods to 35 per cent, effective Aug. 1. "If Canada works with me to stop the flow of Fentanyl, we will, perhaps, consider an adjustment to this letter," Trump writes.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...line-1.7598349

[Codes]

Yes, it was bull#### then, and it's bull#### now.

[direwolf]

At this point I'd be fine with Canada walking away from the table for a while. Tell this dips*** administration that we'll come back and talk again when they're ready to be serious.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Codes

More tariffs for Canada due to our "inaction and continued retaliation".

Get bent.

I will say, no deal means we aren't giving in, and Trump can't handle it.

You know, if he wants to impose stupid deadlines, then I say, go ahead, change yourself 35% more

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

You know, if he wants to impose stupid deadlines, then I say, go ahead, change yourself 35% more

Yup this is not a genuine good faith negotiation.

[Biff]

Can we make Shoresy our chief negotiator? I can barely avoid full Shoresy mode every time the Fanta Menace says or does anything, particularly if it involves us.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by direwolf

The new tariffs only apply to goods that aren’t compliant with USMCA, so the majority of goods are still crossing the border tariff free.

I’m glad we haven’t rolled over. Canada is playing hardball and our officials are saying they’re in no rush to sign a deal at the last second just to meet Trump’s stupid deadline. And rightfully so, considering we’re their most important trading partner. Negotiations will no doubt continue in the meantime.

And I see that he’s now gone back to the fentanyl bulls*** as his excuse again, which he hasn’t mentioned in months. What a f’n loser. He’s probably just mad that his entire reason for the tariffs in the first place are likely going to be struck down in court again, as the Trump administration’s appeal is still awaiting a decision.

It’s really going to be hilarious if the court case doesn’t go the way he wants. But aside from this, his comments on Canada recognizing Palestine and Fentanyl really annoy me. It’s not his decision. If we want to let Fentanyl run amok and be totally legal here, that’s up to us. If we want to make our own foreign policy decisions, also up to us.

[Fuzz]

I'm pretty sure the fentanyl lie is more a remnant of when he first started this, and was using some ancient law that allows the president to impose tariffs if there is an external threat or something. So Fentanyl allowed him to get away with it. But at this point, he's obviously gone so far from that with other countries, and congress doesn't seem to care that he's taken their powers, it is kinda weird he keeps mentioning it. At this point it just feels like a mental glitch, a remnant of a past rationalization he no longer needs, but probably just loves the sound of now.

[CroFlames]

Yep. The astounding part is how much power he's taken from Congress, and instead of fighting back, they give him a complimentary blowjob to go along with his theft. Starting with that creepy ####ing speaker.

[Cycling76er]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Yep. The astounding part is how much power he's taken from Congress, and instead of fighting back, they give him a complimentary blowjob to go along with his theft. Starting with that creepy ####ing speaker.

I'm not sure what the astounding part is. The GOP controls the House, the Senate, the SCOTUS, and now has a corrupt judge set to be installed in the Federal Court of Appeals. Timely considering the appeal being brought to that same court over the rather suspect use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to allow a President to apply tariffs vs. Congress.

That case is being heard today yesterday but I would be shocked (not shocked) if they moved the date back until their new puppet is in place.

To me, the astounding part is the lack of civil unrest. There's been some pretty big protests, yes, but I'm genuinely surprised that it hasn't escalated past that.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Slava

It’s really going to be hilarious if the court case doesn’t go the way he wants. But aside from this, his comments on Canada recognizing Palestine and Fentanyl really annoy me. It’s not his decision. If we want to let Fentanyl run amok and be totally legal here, that’s up to us. If we want to make our own foreign policy decisions, also up to us.

He actually softened on the Palestine thing yesterday, saying that he doesn’t like our stance on the subject, but that it’s not a deal breaker.

[calgarygeologist]

The tariff implementation has been pushed back to August 7.

[MillerTime GFG]

US nonfarm payrolls rose by 73K in July 2025, well below expectations of 110K.

• The June figure was sharply revised down from an initial 147K to just 14K, while May's reading was also cut by 125K.
• Taken together, these revisions show that employment in May and June was 258K lower than previously reported—suggesting the labor market may be cooling more rapidly than initially anticipated.
• Federal government employment continued to decline in July (-12K) and is down by 84K since reaching a peak in January. source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Manufacturing doesn’t appear to be returning to the United States because of tariffs, manufacturing jobs lost 15,000 in May and another 11,000 lost in June. Canada’s manufacturing sector is struggling and so is the United States based on these job numbers.


The bolded part is my favourite.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm pretty sure the fentanyl lie is more a remnant of when he first started this, and was using some ancient law that allows the president to impose tariffs if there is an external threat or something. So Fentanyl allowed him to get away with it. But at this point, he's obviously gone so far from that with other countries, and congress doesn't seem to care that he's taken their powers, it is kinda weird he keeps mentioning it. At this point it just feels like a mental glitch, a remnant of a past rationalization he no longer needs, but probably just loves the sound of now.

Yup the fentanyl part is correct. I saw someone explain that a couple of days ago on the news.

[direwolf]

This is rich coming from an administration who's entire tariff policy is based on outright lies and made-up bulls***. Who are the ones not being serious again?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rea...line-1.7599650

Trump's order cites "Canada's lack of co-operation in stemming the flood of fentanyl and other illicit drugs across our northern border" — even though Canada accounts for a small percentage of drug seizures entering the U.S.

But a White House official gave CBC News a different explanation for the lack of an agreement with Canada, saying on background that Canada "has repeatedly demonstrated a lack of seriousness in trade discussions as it relates to removing trade barriers."

[Drak]

Distractions and chaos.

[CroFlames]

So he's friendly to Epstein, but an ASЅHOLE to Canada.

[GGG]

I think we should put export Tarrifs on Potash as a retaliation.

[afc wimbledon]

It is important to send a message to who ever succeeds Trump that Canada can't be pushed around, the danger for us is not just right now, Trump will leave but if we cave to him the lesson the US will learn, Dem or GOP, is that you can push Canada around and eventually we will cave

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Looch City

It IS all pure bull####.

Which is why I'm surprised we haven't brought up our "trump card" again, the electricity exports from Ontario.

Just say #### it. Zero tariffs across the board or we'll shut down all electricity exports. And then watch them cower lol.

It's not actually technically feasible to do without breaking Ontario's grid. However, adding export taxes to electricity sold to the US would virtually do the same thing. A 200% electricity export duty would make energy unaffordable to a few states. Sadly, they are blue states and probably wouldn't change anyone's mind