Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...lature-grounds


Here's an idea. Why don't you help him #### off back to America?

Boycott America... unless you are the UCP.

Hopefully people catch on and start boycotting the UCP more.

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by Ahuch

https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/artic...rta-waterways/

The government is considering an annual pass for boats, jet skis, canoes, kayaks and other watercraft.
It says all the money would go towards increasing defences against invasive mussels.
The species is growing in North America but has not established in any of Alberta’s over 600 lakes.

So we do not have these invasive mussels but they want to collect money to defend against them. Yep I trust this government to collect money to defend against something that is not here. Also I have a rock for sale that protects against tigers.

[puffnstuff]

That rock must work, I havent seen any tigers. How much for it?

[Fuzz]

Alberta spent $30M on unpaid land rent for delinquent oil and gas companies in 2024

When oil and gas companies are unable, or unwilling, to pay their land rent, the provincial government will pay it for them. More than 99% of the time, the government never gets its money back

https://thenarwhal.ca/alberta-oil-an...aid-rent-2024/


More tax dollars well spent.

[Torture]

I for one, can't wait to pay a new 'stop invasives' fee on top of my 'Kananaskis conservation fee' to go paddle my canoe in a lake.

Meanwhile the guy in a 4x4 at McLean Creek is actually destroying the ecosystem and they get to do it for free.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Torture

I for one, can't wait to pay a new 'stop invasives' fee on top of my 'Kananaskis conservation fee' to go paddle my canoe in a lake.

Meanwhile the guy in a 4x4 at McLean Creek is actually destroying the ecosystem and they get to do it for free.

Bashin' 4x4's through the creek has been a way of life for far longer than canoe paddlin'. These are Old Stock Canadian activities that must be preserved and protected. Did canoes even exist before Canadian Tire was founded? I'm not gonna look, but doubtful.

[Torture]

90% of the time my Canoe travels between my garage and a river or lake in Alberta. I clean/drain/dry my boat. If we don't have invasives in Alberta, I'm not transporting them. Ridiculous cash grab.

Also, by the definition of watercraft they ask about in the survey you're going to charge everybody floating their inflatable exploder 200 on the Bow because it's being used to navigate a body of water. LOL.

If implemented, the annual watercraft pass could apply to any watercraft launching into a waterbody within Alberta. A watercraft is defined as any boat, kayak, canoe, paddleboard, vessel, shipcraft, designed or capable of being used in water, but does not include:

Any watercraft entering Alberta at the request of the Government of Alberta to assist in an emergency response, and
Any inflatable self-propelled water toy that is not being used for navigation in water.

[Geraldsh]

No matter what you are floating on, if you don’t navigate it you will eventually drown.

[puffnstuff]

So do they see this fee per craft then? My 2 kayaks, 3 paddleboards and a boat, all only ever used inside Alberta, could get pricey.

[troutman]

What about belly boats?

[puffnstuff]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...tion-1.7595694

A potential referendum question on Alberta separating from Canada has been referred to a judge for confirmation that the question doesn't violate the Constitution.

The move prompted rebukes#from Alberta's premier and justice minister on Tuesday morning, who asked the province's chief electoral officer to withdraw his court reference.

"The recently passed amendments to the Citizen Initiative Act are intended to be broadly permissive and to allow Albertans the opportunity to launch a referendum petition without needless bureaucratic red tape or court applications slowing the process," Justice Minister Mickey Amery posted on social media platform X, formerly Twitter.
Premier Danielle Smith also commented on social media Tuesday morning, saying although she believes in "Alberta sovereignty within a united Canada," she agrees with Amery.
"Albertans have a democratic right to participate in the citizen initiative process," her post said. "They shouldn't be slowed down by bureaucratic red tape or court applications."

[WideReceiver]

Jeffrey Rath saying we could be free of property and income taxes on five years of independence. It’s sounds pretty appealing if you’re gullible.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

Jeffrey Rath saying we could be free of property and income taxes on five years of independence. It’s sounds pretty appealing if you’re gullible.

Of course, but they always conveniently forget things like, Healthcare, Education, infrastructure, They stopped looking into anything after thinking YAY We'll be tax free!!! FREEDUM!!!!!!!!!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...tion-1.7595694

A potential referendum question on Alberta separating from Canada has been referred to a judge for confirmation that the question doesn't violate the Constitution.

The move prompted rebukes#from Alberta's premier and justice minister on Tuesday morning, who asked the province's chief electoral officer to withdraw his court reference.

"The recently passed amendments to the Citizen Initiative Act are intended to be broadly permissive and to allow Albertans the opportunity to launch a referendum petition without needless bureaucratic red tape or court applications slowing the process," Justice Minister Mickey Amery posted on social media platform X, formerly Twitter.
Premier Danielle Smith also commented on social media Tuesday morning, saying although she believes in "Alberta sovereignty within a united Canada," she agrees with Amery.
"Albertans have a democratic right to participate in the citizen initiative process," her post said. "They shouldn't be slowed down by bureaucratic red tape or court applications."

Yes, no need to make sure the question being asked is even legal. That's red tape nobody wants.


Also, WHAT THE #### IS THE RUSH?

[Torture]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

So do they see this fee per craft then? My 2 kayaks, 3 paddleboards and a boat, all only ever used inside Alberta, could get pricey.

Yep, pretty stupid. That's one of the survey questions - should it be per user or per boat.

Take the survey and tell them it's dumb I guess:
https://www.alberta.ca/aquatic-invas...ass-engagement

Invasive mussels are a big problem, I don't dispute that, but this isn't going to solve anything it's just going to raise funds.
Would be interested to know how many invasive species are travelling via canoe/kayak/SUP/raft vs motorized boat.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Yes, no need to make sure the question being asked is even legal. That's red tape nobody wants.


Also, WHAT THE #### IS THE RUSH?

Pesky courts, actually making dsure what they want to do is actually legal. Who needs that ####? Not us AmericansAlbertans, right?

[Torture]

Last year, 19 of the nearly 9,000 boats inspected in Alberta carried invasive mussels from other provinces and from south of the border. Inspections determine whether the boats—including motorized vessels and paddle boats such as canoes—are properly drained and free of invasive species. 38 boaters received charges or warnings for failure to stop at an open inspection station, and six received charges or warnings for not removing their bilge plug.

19 out of 9000 boats inspected (.2% of those that travelled out of province. And how many weren't inspected?) had invasive mussels. So yeah, let's charge every boat in Alberta a fee, even if they only ever take their boat out on the local lake/river without taking it out of province.

https://cottagelife.com/outdoors/alb...asive-mussels/


Alberta is invasive mussel free - so if your boat never leaves the province, why do we need a fee?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...tion-1.7595694

A potential referendum question on Alberta separating from Canada has been referred to a judge for confirmation that the question doesn't violate the Constitution.

The move prompted rebukes#from Alberta's premier and justice minister on Tuesday morning, who asked the province's chief electoral officer to withdraw his court reference.

"The recently passed amendments to the Citizen Initiative Act are intended to be broadly permissive and to allow Albertans the opportunity to launch a referendum petition without needless bureaucratic red tape or court applications slowing the process," Justice Minister Mickey Amery posted on social media platform X, formerly Twitter.
Premier Danielle Smith also commented on social media Tuesday morning, saying although she believes in "Alberta sovereignty within a united Canada," she agrees with Amery.
"Albertans have a democratic right to participate in the citizen initiative process," her post said. "They shouldn't be slowed down by bureaucratic red tape or court applications."

So Danielle, you changed the law to make it easier for separatists to force a referendum.

Then, when those separatists demand a question that may not be (read: definitely isn't) constitutional, you get upset that the law is being applied as written, BY YOUR GOVERNMENT, and complain that they separation question shouldn't be slowed down.

You know, for someone who says you don't support separation, you sure seem to be doing as much as you can to get it to a referendum. And you sure seem to be trying your best to be helpful to the people advocating the thing you say you're against.

[Monahammer]

Separatists shouldn't be slowed down by bureaucratic red tape, but people wishing to boat on water in Alberta need to have 8 extra licenses.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Torture

19 out of 9000 boats inspected (.2% of those that travelled out of province. And how many weren't inspected?) had invasive mussels. So yeah, let's charge every boat in Alberta a fee, even if they only ever take their boat out on the local lake/river without taking it out of province.

https://cottagelife.com/outdoors/alb...asive-mussels/


Alberta is invasive mussel free - so if your boat never leaves the province, why do we need a fee?

Bro, you're asking too many questions. It's always just one thing with this UCP government. And it's described by one word. One word describes their entire motives and policies.

Grift.

It's all part of the Grift. That should be their new slogan.