2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Rutuu

For Parekh I'm hoping for a 50pt+ season...while being a minus player.

For Wolf I'm looking at a 0.905 sv% with a GAA of 3+ as a successful season.

Both of those things line up the Flames for a middle of the pack finish.

We'll also see growth from some of the young guys, offset by some step backs in our 32yr+ players.

Another year of "what are we" story lines from outside Calgary, and from inside Calgary "we turned over X amount of the roster", and "rebuilds don't always work" story lines from the die hards.

Tough sell to young fans in the market, and an impossible sell to those outside of the market.

I'm definitely hoping for the same, but I'd be happy if Parekh breaks the 35 point mark and ecstatic if he breaks 45 and plays even okay defense.

He's younger than Makar, Hughes, Hutson and Seider were when they entered the league, and only 15 defenders scored 50 or more points last year. If he scores 50 playing half the year as a 19 year old, holy moly!

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Rutuu

For Parekh I'm hoping for a 50pt+ season...while being a minus player.

For Wolf I'm looking at a 0.905 sv% with a GAA of 3+ as a successful season.

Both of those things line up the Flames for a middle of the pack finish.

We'll also see growth from some of the young guys, offset by some step backs in our 32yr+ players.

Another year of "what are we" story lines from outside Calgary, and from inside Calgary "we turned over X amount of the roster", and "rebuilds don't always work" story lines from the die hards.

Tough sell to young fans in the market, and an impossible sell to those outside of the market.

I think if Wolf has a GAA above 3, we would fall down the standings a bit. 50 points would be great got Parekh.

I know there are NTC's and all that, but I wish our management would pull the band aid off already. Other teams aren't scared to ask their NTC players to waive. It really should not be difficult to go up to all these old guys and say "listen, you signed here because you wanted to win a cup and things have changed, we are rebuilding. Where do you want to go, give me a few teams".

[Jiri Hrdina]

We’ve been through this
How do you know they haven’t had a conversation or that Kadri has been clear that he doesn’t want to go.
And if he has what’s the point in asking him to waive
You are assuming there’s been no communication on the matter

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I think if Wolf has a GAA above 3, we would fall down the standings a bit. 50 points would be great got Parekh.

I know there are NTC's and all that, but I wish our management would pull the band aid off already. Other teams aren't scared to ask their NTC players to waive. It really should not be difficult to go up to all these old guys and say "listen, you signed here because you wanted to win a cup and things have changed, we are rebuilding. Where do you want to go, give me a few teams".

I don’t think it’s common at all to ask a player to waive without a specific deal where someone has asked for him.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I know there are NTC's and all that

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Some of the suggestions just sound so easy, I wonder why all teams don't just trade all their vets and be terrible afterwards then draft studs and win championships.

It does sounds very easy and foolproof.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Some of the suggestions just sound so easy, I wonder why all teams don't just trade all their vets and be terrible afterwards then draft studs and win championships.

It does sounds very easy and foolproof.

Exactly
It’s obvious that we should trade all the vets and even some of the young guys (Wolf and Parekh) since they will be past their prime by time we are good, for draft picks so maybe we can get some good players
For sure we win the cup in 9 or 10 years

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

We’ve been through this
How do you know they haven’t had a conversation or that Kadri has been clear that he doesn’t want to go.
And if he has what’s the point in asking him to waive
You are assuming there’s been no communication on the matter

Yeah, im surprised so many bring up the Kadri thing like the flames should explore it "more than they have" to see. Im the opposite - I'd be shocked if Kadri, his agent and the Flames havent had numerous "touch base" meetings throughout the last couple years, to the point where they always know where each other stands on making a trade/being traded.

Kadri especially seems like an open book as far his feelings on where he's playing the possibility of playing elsewhere.i also wouldn't be surprised if it's an every changing thing based on current success and moves made.

Ie: players sold off, he cools and becomes more open to leaving. Next season wolf looks like a future star, parekh coming in, flames almost make playoffs, now he warms up again and says "I ain't going anywhere, my family moved here and now I like the direction again".

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by kehatch

First, all I said is arguing against a rebuild because there are examples of rebuilds that didn't result in a cup is silly.

I literally just showed you why it isn't. As I have repeatedly done before.

If you can't grasp the concept of correlation and how it applies to this, I can't help you. You'll just have to accept that you don't understand one of the most important tools that you have to apply in order to work with statistics.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Some of the suggestions just sound so easy, I wonder why all teams don't just trade all their vets and be terrible afterwards then draft studs and win championships.

It does sounds very easy and foolproof.

Thats not a very fair comment, imo, and likely born of a handful of fans that are a little incessant about tanking on here. For starters, the number one reason is that GMs get fired as teams trend down, so very few GM's are going to actively get worse even if the writing is on the wall.

They almost always fight to get better and put their team behind the eight ball with life preserving, desperate moves until they get fired. Add to that, many ownership groups can't stomach the idea of getting worse, and often have the same mentality as GM's in cutting bait only when the team is old and out of the playoffs multiple years.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I literally just showed you why it isn't. As I have repeatedly done before.

If you can't grasp the concept of correlation and how it applies to this, I can't help you. You'll just have to accept that you don't understand one of the most important tools that you have to apply in order to work with statistics.

Even tried not being a total prick in life?

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Even tried not being a total prick in life?

Par for the course around here. You try to give an opinion and just get crapped on and told you're a moron.

You are not allowed to have an opinion that the Flames should try doing something different. We should do what we have always done, case closed.

[Aarongavey]

I just hope tomorrow we can determine what the objective standard is for a team that is tanking for the rebuild in terms of number of vets traded for draft picks and prospects.

The Flames have traded 7 out of basically 11 tradeable vets for picks and prospects. They have not added any substantive players.

If the objective standard 8/11 (73% of all eligible veterans).

Is it 9/11 (82% of all eligible vets)?

Once we set that objective standard we will know when we are rebuilding. For me the threshold has already been met. When you trade 64% of your vets for picks and prospects and make no efforts to improve your team on the UFA market you are already tanking.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Par for the course around here. You try to give an opinion and just get crapped on and told you're a moron.

You are not allowed to have an opinion that the Flames should try doing something different. We should do what we have always done, case closed.

I just got stupider reading this. Your entire last sentence is demonstrably (and has been proven to be demonstrably false to the point where you quit trying to make up facts) in this very thread.

[Sandman]

C'mon, guys.....RELAX!!!!! We can agree to disagree without hurling insults, or condescending each other!!!!!

[chummer]

What the heck is going on here?

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I just got stupider reading this. Your entire last sentence is demonstrably (and has been proven to be demonstrably false to the point where you quit trying to make up facts) in this very thread.

Exactly like that other not to be mentioned account

1. Harp on a single point incessantly

2. Becomes belligerent when challenged

3. Claims to be a victim


Uncanny really

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Even tried not being a total prick in life?

All the time. But it doesn't work with some people. At some point I have to say, look, you're simply wrong about this, and you are wrong because you are showing a clear incomprehension of the other side's argument.

Saying that you have to tank to win the Stanley Cup because 90 percent of Stanley Cup winners have a high pick is bad statistics. You have to look at the fact that 90 percent of ALL TEAMS have a high pick. Other people have done the work and presented the numbers to show that the correlation is very weak, but you just don't seem to get it. I'm not sure if you're unwilling to see the point or incapable of seeing it, but in either case, you aren't seeing it and there is simply no help for that.

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Par for the course around here. You try to give an opinion and just get crapped on and told you're a moron.

You are not allowed to have an opinion that the Flames should try doing something different. We should do what we have always done, case closed.

Nobody has said anything like that. But trust you to lie about what other people are saying in order to have an excuse to put them down.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Sandman

C'mon, guys.....RELAX!!!!! We can agree to disagree without hurling insults, or condescending each other!!!!!

If everyone was respectful like your posts are, then that would be correct. Hope that happens going forward.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

If everyone was respectful like your posts are, then that would be correct. Hope that happens going forward.

Will you do your part by not miss-representing the views of others and what they are saying?