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Old 07-18-2025, 11:00 PM   #5441
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I'd be happy with Dach and a 2nd.
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Old 07-18-2025, 11:08 PM   #5442
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I'd be happy with Dach and a 2nd.
A year from now, that might be all they could get for Kadri if he does not repeat a similar performance this upcoming season as he did last season, but right now, his value is likely at the highest it will be and the flames are not motivated to trade him. I think it would take a bit of an overpay from Montreal (or any other team) to convince them flames to trade him this offseason.
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Old 07-18-2025, 11:33 PM   #5443
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I’m sure the Kadri-Montreal speculation has little to know chance of happening but, since it’s the dog days of summer, why not give it a shot for fun. How about these:

Trade A)
To Montreal: Kadri
To Calgary: Dach + 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected) + 2027 2nd round pick

Trade B)
To Montreal: Kadri
To Calgary: Josh Anderson* + Dach + 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected) + 2027 1st round pick (top 10 protected)
*Calgary then flips Josh Anderson to another team with 50% retention and gets a conditional 3rd round pick (turns to a 2nd round pick if said team makes it to the 3rd round of the playoffs).
Not sure you would get all of those assets in each trade for Kadri, but I could see something along those lines. I saw a rumor a few weeks back that the Flames are still high on Josh Anderson, and I would believe it- he won't get you 30 goals anymore, but he would be an excellent bottom-6 banger with Backs and Coles. Dach would be an ideal acquisition if he could just stay healthy.
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Old 07-18-2025, 11:35 PM   #5444
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I'd be happy with Dach and a 2nd.
I would go for Dach and a 1st, based on his injury history....
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Not sure you would get all of those assets in each trade for Kadri, but I could see something along those lines. I saw a rumor a few weeks back that the Flames are still high on Josh Anderson, and I would believe it- he won't get you 30 goals anymore, but he would be an excellent bottom-6 banger with Backs and Coles. Dach would be an ideal acquisition if he could just stay healthy.
Montreal has to trade Dach this year to some sucker, he will be worthless in another year. Just another “big” center that does not have much else going for him. He would be a decent bottom six banger though, I see him as a modern day Jason Wiemer type with a little more offence.

Habs are lucky they have a first line center in 5’11 Suzuki cause Dach was never going to be that guy, does not have the hands.
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Old 07-19-2025, 07:30 AM   #5446
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Montreal has to trade Dach this year to some sucker, he will be worthless in another year. Just another “big” center that does not have much else going for him. He would be a decent bottom six banger though, I see him as a modern day Jason Wiemer type with a little more offence.

Habs are lucky they have a first line center in 5’11 Suzuki cause Dach was never going to be that guy, does not have the hands.
Well, I have to disagree with you to some extent, as I believe his ineffectiveness comes mainly from his injuries- he’s a playmaker first and foremost, and owns excellent hockey sense and skill. He was trending up a few years ago, with 38 points in 58 games as a 22 year old. That said, it’s true that he may never return to his previous form, and may end up in a bottom six somewhere.
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I would go for Dach and a 1st, based on his injury history....
Yeah this guy is on my dynasty team and he lives on my IR. Hes on it right now, had season ending knee surgery.

His first wrist injury was a total freak accident, but things just keep happening to him.
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Dach sucks. Go for prospects from Montreal only in my mind.
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Old 07-19-2025, 08:23 AM   #5449
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Is it possible Dach is to Montreal what Monahan was to Calgary with these injuries? What is he healthy?
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Old 07-19-2025, 08:29 AM   #5450
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Dach or Newhook would be okay as the salary coming back but the prize would be the picks which I would want a 1st and 2nd
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Old 07-19-2025, 08:42 AM   #5451
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Kadri to Montreal would be awesome just because it would crush Toronto… they have no where near the required assets to land a guy like that, and they desperately need him.
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Old 07-19-2025, 08:43 AM   #5452
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I've been assuming that the ones who've been pleading for Conroy to ship Kadri, Coleman and Backlund out for picks and run with the kids are probably just too young to have seen how that went for the Oilers during the Hall, Eberle, Gagner era.
You don't need to go back in time to find examples of rebuilds that didn't work. They are easy to find. But its even easier to find examples of rebuilds that did work. Just Google Stanley Cup champions.

If you want a real challenge, find teams that won a Stanley Cup without a rebuild. You have to be pretty old to remember most of those teams.
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Old 07-19-2025, 09:04 AM   #5453
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See I think we agree on most of what we are saying.

I think we both identify 11 guys that would ideally play in your top 9, and potentially 2-3 prospects that also could push hard for a spot (at least one of Basha, Gridin, Stromgren, Kerins, Honzek, Battaglia, etc is going to have a great camp).

I also think in an ideal world at least one winger would have been moved this offseason to prepare for that.

But I'm not sure that's happening. So with that in mind I think the only other option is to try to roll a more even 4 lines even though it means some of the older veteran guys are going to have to play less.
If Backlund is your shut down center you're going to have to beg and plead the other coach to not play their best more than 12 minutes at five on five.

Tongue in cheek sorry.

It just doesn't work.

You need Kadri at 14 and likely Backlund at 14. That takes up 28 leaving about 20 for the third and fourth line centers.

That likes goes 12 and 8
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Old 07-19-2025, 09:05 AM   #5454
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Kadri to Montreal would be awesome just because it would crush Toronto… they have no where near the required assets to land a guy like that, and they desperately need him.
They are a good fit in a few ways. They have the assets to make the trade. They have players (Josh Anderson) that could be used as a salary dump so that the flames are not retaining on Kadri. They have a need for a 2nd line center. They took a big step last year and made the playoffs. They are deep at every position in terms of prospects except for center so getting Kadri could fill a position of need. They are also at the point in their rebuild where it would be smart to start building through trades and signings.

They have to be willing to pay the price which I assume is pretty high because Calgary is reluctant to sell Kadri and Kadri is reluctant to be traded.
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I’m sure the Kadri-Montreal speculation has little to know chance of happening but, since it’s the dog days of summer, why not give it a shot for fun. How about these:

Trade A)
To Montreal: Kadri
To Calgary: Dach + 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected) + 2027 2nd round pick

Trade B)
To Montreal: Kadri
To Calgary: Josh Anderson* + Dach + 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected) + 2027 1st round pick (top 10 protected)
*Calgary then flips Josh Anderson to another team with 50% retention and gets a conditional 3rd round pick (turns to a 2nd round pick if said team makes it to the 3rd round of the playoffs).
Can’t recall exactly which podcast it was I was listening to but what was said is that Montreal has little to no interest in trading Anderson despite what many people think of him.

Dach and a pick sounds reasonable to me.
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Old 07-19-2025, 09:48 AM   #5456
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Kadri to Montreal would be awesome just because it would crush Toronto… they have no where near the required assets to land a guy like that, and they desperately need him.
Treliving blew his wad on bottom six guys. Would be funny to see Kadri in Montreal.
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