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View Poll Results: Pick the best prospect from the following
Bell, Parker 0 0%
Chechelev, Daniil 0 0%
Cicek, Nick 0 0%
Ciona, Lucas 0 0%
Grushnikov, Artyom 1 0.37%
Hoskin, Trevor 0 0%
Hurtig, Axel 0 0%
Jamieson, Eric 1 0.37%
Kerins, Rory 16 5.97%
King, Carter 0 0%
Kuznetsov, Yan 7 2.61%
Laing, Hunter 0 0%
Lane, Aidan 0 0%
Leander, Jakob 0 0%
Lipinski, Jaden 0 0%
Littler, Cade 0 0%
Matveiko, Yan 0 0%
Misa, Luke 29 10.82%
Morton, Sam 3 1.12%
Phillips, Mace'o 0 0%
Poirier, Jeremie 5 1.87%
Say, Owen 0 0%
Sergeev, Arsenii 4 1.49%
Solovyov, Ilya 1 0.37%
Stockselius, Theo 10 3.73%
Strömgren, William 8 2.99%
Suniev, Aydar 183 68.28%
Wyttenbach, Ethan 0 0%
Yegorov, Yegor 0 0%
Zarubin, Kirill 0 0%
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Old 07-18-2025, 10:00 AM   #21
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For me the upcoming tier is:

Solovyov
Stockselius
Misa
Kuznetsov
Kerins


In that order.
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Old 07-18-2025, 10:11 AM   #22
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Old 07-18-2025, 10:19 AM   #23
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NHL-E projections


The Ike Howard 25-26 Calder Trophy Winner
D+1 17
D+2 27
D+3 38


Aydar Suniev
D+1 22
D+2 35


won't get the D+3 bump given the move to a crowded AHL club but interesting nonetheless
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Old 07-18-2025, 10:22 AM   #24
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What site is the best one for NHL-E projections?
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Old 07-18-2025, 10:30 AM   #25
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Suniev, but there is a handful at this spot still.



Stocksellus has some upside - especially considering what this kid has been through. Wait until he manages to catch up with his physical development. I think he might end up being one of the huge risers next season.


Luke Misa - fast skater with skill. With the NHL getting faster and faster, you need players that can play at speed, and that can actually make plays at speed. Misa does does. He may be the most underrated prospect here simply because of where he was drafted, and who his brother is.



Poirier - I can't help but remember in his draft: "Third best hands in the entire draft". The NHL might be a better league in which to show off his skills than the AHL was. I am looking forward to seeing how he does at the highest level, playing with players that can work with his vision. I think he may surprise people.


I expect Stromgren to really show up this year. I remember his quotes after the season ended. There is a lot to like about this prospect, and if he is motivated, he will impress.


Sergeev, Yegorov and Zarubin - They are well thought-of. Heck, maybe they supplant Wolf down the road, or turn into valuable trade chips.



Even beyond these guys, there are prospects that can impress. I really like Solovyov and Kuznetsov as prospects, but I don't have them as potential difference makers, but rather good pieces filling out the roster if they continue taking steps forward.
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What site is the best one for NHL-E projections?
tbh i have no clue, I happened to use the frozen tools calculator- even if its not perfect the data trends pass the eyeball test to me given their counting numbers and respective conferences
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Old 07-18-2025, 11:26 AM   #27
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Pretty wild that Kuznetzov might make the team out of camp this year...and he's not on most people's radar in the top-15
I'll never understand peoples hype around guys who project as replaceable bottom pair D.

They should be more like me, who hype up guys who project as replaceable bottom six FORWARDS, like my boy Trevor Hoskin.

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I'll never understand peoples hype around guys who project as replaceable bottom pair D.

They should be more like me, who hype up guys who project as replaceable bottom six FORWARDS, like my boy Trevor Hoskin.

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I think he potentially projects like a Kevin Bahl. A couple of seasons on the bottom pairing followed by top 4 minutes. I think that could be a pretty important role on the Flames going forward.
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I think he potentially projects like a Kevin Bahl. A couple of seasons on the bottom pairing followed by top 4 minutes. I think that could be a pretty important role on the Flames going forward.
For me personally, the phrase "top 4" implies the ability to play top pair minutes to go with the middle pair, which is not something I see Bahl or Kuznetsov having the puck skills to do effectively.

I have a pretty low opinion on guys who have limited puck skills in general. I see both more as "bottom 4" defenders and I think they skew more to the third pair.

I'm not here to convince you or change your mind, just stating my own thoughts on players in the mold of Kuzy or Bahl in general.

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For me personally, the phrase "top 4" implies the ability to play top pair minutes to go with the middle pair, which is not something I see Bahl or Kuznetsov having the puck skills to do effectively.

I have a pretty low opinion on guys who have limited puck skills in general. I see both more as "bottom 4" defenders and I think they skew more to the third pair.

I'm not here to convince you or change your mind, just stating my own thoughts on players in the mold of Kuzy or Bahl in general.

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How do you view a guy like Chris Tanev?
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Old 07-18-2025, 02:23 PM   #31
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How do you view a guy like Chris Tanev?
For me, Chris Tanev has a skillset that Kuzy or Bahl lack. Tanev is a both a better skater and has a better first pass.

Tanev has the ability to disrupt offensive plays then move the puck up the ice (either by skating it out himself or making a smart pass); Bahl often has to spend his entire shift defending because once he wins a pick he often loses it and has to continue defending.

IMO there is a blind spot when it comes to defensive defenders. Bahl may actually be a superior defender to Tanev but he is spending too much time doing just defending when a more efficient defensive D (Tanev, Forsling, Toews) are not only winning pucks in the S zone but starting the transition to offense much more often.

That's what you want from a top pair and middle pair guy. To me, that's not what you will get out of Bahl or Kuzy.

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Definitely seeing some ledges here. Suniev at ~70% suggests a big ledge below.

If we use the following grading descriptions.

Blue chip - 1st pairing/1st line likely with potential to be elite and small chance to disappoint/bust.

A prospect - 1st line/1st pairing upside, with wide range of outcomes (elite, disappoint, or to outright bust).

B prospect - top-6/top-4 upside. Potential to get better, good chance at disappointing/busting.

C prospect - top-9/bottom pair upside, potential to be better, high bust risk.

D prospect - bottom line/7D upside, very high bust chance

F prospect - tweener likely at best unless major improvement

2025 Rankings:
1. Parekh - 99.2% Blue Chip/A

2. Reschny - 57.1% A/B

3. Brzustewicz - 46.7% B
4. Gridin - 45.3% B
5. Potter - 54.5% B

6. Honzek - 39.9% B/C
7. Basha - 34.8% B/C
8. Mews - Run Off B/C
9. Morin - Run Off B/C
10. Battaglia - 47.9% B/C
11. Suniev ~70% B/C

12 and beyond are C/D/F prospects
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I did go with Suniev this time, but I am not going to lie, the Stockselius train is picking up steam
Stockselius is one of those Swedish prospects that are initially hard to get jazzed about, because they don't come with the buzz of CHL or US Development stats, but the more I read about him, the more I like him.

He's also a big two-way centre that has a lot of room to develop. We've talked about so and so being Backlund's replacement, but I think it could be this guy in a few years.
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For me personally, the phrase "top 4" implies the ability to play top pair minutes to go with the middle pair, which is not something I see Bahl or Kuznetsov having the puck skills to do effectively.

I have a pretty low opinion on guys who have limited puck skills in general. I see both more as "bottom 4" defenders and I think they skew more to the third pair.

I'm not here to convince you or change your mind, just stating my own thoughts on players in the mold of Kuzy or Bahl in general.

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i dunno...I think he has the ability to be a really good #5 defenseman and that has real value. Low ceiling, but also a relatively high floor. And that's the hard part...do you pick the guy who is maybe a tween or maybe a top 4. Or do you pick the guy who is a bottom pairing or a bottom pairing.

6'5, which is good for top-30 tallest players in league
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For me, Chris Tanev has a skillset that Kuzy or Bahl lack. Tanev is a both a better skater and has a better first pass.

Tanev has the ability to disrupt offensive plays then move the puck up the ice (either by skating it out himself or making a smart pass); Bahl often has to spend his entire shift defending because once he wins a pick he often loses it and has to continue defending.

IMO there is a blind spot when it comes to defensive defenders. Bahl may actually be a superior defender to Tanev but he is spending too much time doing just defending when a more efficient defensive D (Tanev, Forsling, Toews) are not only winning pucks in the S zone but starting the transition to offense much more often.

That's what you want from a top pair and middle pair guy. To me, that's not what you will get out of Bahl or Kuzy.

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Bahl is also just 25 as of a few weeks ago. Over ten years younger than Tanev, who had yet to become the player you’re talking about 10 years ago. Tanev was caved in 13/14 (his 24y/o season).

Maybe good to take a wait and see before determining what you will or won’t get out of a guy. Defencemen take time.
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Bahl is also just 25 as of a few weeks ago. Over ten years younger than Tanev, who had yet to become the player you’re talking about 10 years ago. Tanev was caved in 13/14 (his 24y/o season).



Maybe good to take a wait and see before determining what you will or won’t get out of a guy. Defencemen take time.
I didn't bring up Tanev, just responding to someone who asked.

I'm also not speaking in any definitive terms about any of these guys. I'm just less bullish on their prospects of turning into anything beyond replacement level guys.

And I could absolutely be wrong, it's just one posters opinion.

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At times I thought Bahl showed a little more puck skills than I expected.
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At times I thought Bahl showed a little more puck skills than I expected.
It's not exactly a strength of his, but much less of a weakness than I thought it would be. I think Bahl grew into the role after he was put in the top four.
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At times I thought Bahl showed a little more puck skills than I expected.
Agreed. While he might defer to his partner more, he had no trouble skating the puck out of the zone. His first pass was okay, but when he had it in the offensive zone he wasn't shy about going in tight to the net and shooting. His shot isn't very good, so that's why his play doesn't produce more, but his instincts offensively aren't terrible.
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The fact that Aydar Suniev is our 11th-best prospect shows just how good our pipeline is. Maybe the deepest we've seen since the 80's.
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