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Old 07-16-2025, 10:25 AM   #5081
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Dom on the Athletic put out an article which shows his model predicting which teams improved the most this year.

The Flames swapping out back up goalies puts them right around everyone’s favorite spot of 17th
He figures we'll finish 17th or we're the 17th most improved team? Which kinda might be the same thing I guess...
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Old 07-16-2025, 10:29 AM   #5082
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I'd way rather see the gifs from someone who has heard something they want to share than the 1,252,845th post about how it's a huge failure if Kadri isn't traded.
All from one dude.
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Old 07-16-2025, 10:36 AM   #5084
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He figures we'll finish 17th or we're the 17th most improved team? Which kinda might be the same thing I guess...
Just off-season improvement. Dallas and Toronto are near the bottom and San Jose is number 1.

Only looks at players in and out not factoring internal improvements or coaching changes. Kind of a crap article to be honest but without a best reporter the content with Flames info is few and far between.
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Has it ever occurred to you that they're getting "thanks" BECAUSE of a legit rumor?
But how does anyone know if anything is a “legit” rumour before they click THANKS / what makes a legit rumour ? Because you want it to be true ? Because you like the poster ?

If we are going to police the thread we need ground rules !!! If not we will descend into anarchy !

What if SEC is just drunk and trolling you all on vacation !

(Personally I do find it humorous anyone who gets annoyed or offended by anything is a rumors and speculation thread . To me this thread is like BSing with buddies over beers about the team and what people have heard through the grapevine )
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Just off-season improvement. Dallas and Toronto are near the bottom and San Jose is number 1.

Only looks at players in and out not factoring internal improvements or coaching changes. Kind of a crap article to be honest but without a best reporter the content with Flames info is few and far between.
Flames beat reporter is still Julian MacKenzie who lives in Ottawa now I believe.

Dom isn't one of my favorites and hie blip about the Flames ending in "Boring!" also sums up my opinion of him.
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Times of India is reporting that there's some activity surrounding Andersson and Robertson. Hold on to your butts.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../122569946.cms
Why is he just referred to as "$31 million dollar winger" and not Robertson.

Do they think fans can't just go look up who is on a $31M deal?
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But how does anyone know if anything is a “legit” rumour before they click THANKS / what makes a legit rumour ? Because you want it to be true ? Because you like the poster ?

If we are going to police the thread we need ground rules !!! If not we will descend into anarchy !

What if SEC is just drunk and trolling you all on vacation !

(Personally I do find it humorous anyone who gets annoyed or offended by anything is a rumors and speculation thread . To me this thread is like BSing with buddies over beers about the team and what people have heard through the grapevine )


Honestly who cares if Sec is trolling? The folks who are hypersensitive to the gifs are the people who regurgitate the same points over and over. We are in it right now the dog days of summer. 3 months until the regular season with most of the offseason action complete. The flames have done nothing which irks some fans so there is an obvious desire for this thread to have life as it is the defacto team building thread.

I love all the insider tips and take them for what they are as nuggets of intel but for those that want to burn Sec and others at the stake I prefer they just keep their mouths shut and doom scroll past. I fully agree with your last comment in brackets
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So what do the flames need to add to Andersson to secure JR in return?

Cause I don't think a 1 for 1 is happening.

But then again I think every one sees Rasmus as more valuable than I do.
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Flames beat reporter is still Julian MacKenzie who lives in Ottawa now I believe.

Dom isn't one of my favorites and hie blip about the Flames ending in "Boring!" also sums up my opinion of him.
Doesn’t Julien cover the Sens and just provides Calgary tidbits when they need someone to comment on the team?

Julien has not written a flames centric article since he moved.
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So what do the flames need to add to Andersson to secure JR in return?

Cause I don't think a 1 for 1 is happening.

But then again I think every one sees Rasmus as more valuable than I do.
Unless the add is Coleman I prefer the Flames not target Robo especially if they are giving up futures.
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Doesn’t Julien cover the Sens and just provides Calgary tidbits when they need someone to comment on the team?

Julien has not written a flames centric article since he moved.
Yep. But thats all they have for Flames coverage. To me, that makes him our beat reporter. The Athletic can be great, but it can also be pretty awful.
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So what do the flames need to add to Andersson to secure JR in return?

Cause I don't think a 1 for 1 is happening.

But then again I think every one sees Rasmus as more valuable than I do.
Vegas 1st probably. I'm sure Dallas would like to recoup a pick. And I could see a Honzek type prospect .

I'd still pull the trigger. The position Robertson plays may be wrong but the rest of him is very very right. Big, scores, young, under team control. It's exactly what the Flames are looking for with their checklist.

I still think 1 for 1 is the trade if it happens though. The cap flexibility is a really big deal to a team on the cusp of a cup.

Then again, Jim Nill could do almost anything to bolster that roster and Glue Gun will ruin it somehow.
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Rumour - a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.
I’ll never understand what a “legit rumour” is supposed to mean.
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So what do the flames need to add to Andersson to secure JR in return?

Cause I don't think a 1 for 1 is happening.

But then again I think every one sees Rasmus as more valuable than I do.
It's a good question because I think you're right in saying that Andersson's value is not nearly the same as Robertson's on paper.

I guess the question it would come down to is how much does Dallas want to offload Robertson's salary for this year and future years and does that factor at all into the valuation of everything?

I do agree thought that I doubt Andersson without an add is likely not enough.
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Truly the dream piece for the Flames this summer if they could somehow pull it off.
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Truly the dream piece for the Flames this summer if thry could somehow pull it off.
Our 2026 1st would definitely be involved. Honestly, I would probably do it.

2026 first + a Roster player (zary ?)
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Lol. "He's more available now than he's ever been" wtf does that mean?
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Dallas needs to get out of a cap crunch and Andersson is on a team friendly AAV this year so I imagine the add would have to be something that doesn't impact their team cap total. So pick/prospect.

For the Flames it depends on who that is or what pick

Surrendering the Vegas 1st would be unwise. I'd do a 2nd or later easily.
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