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Old 07-14-2025, 03:29 AM   #4541
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I don't understand why we are looking at getting players back in a trade when it appears we don't have enough space on the roster for the young players we have, like Zary?
I don't know any of these prospects from Dallas, would they be going to the Wranglers? (Iknow Robertson or Borque wouldn't be)
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Old 07-14-2025, 08:09 AM   #4542
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I don't understand why we are looking at getting players back in a trade when it appears we don't have enough space on the roster for the young players we have, like Zary?
I don't know any of these prospects from Dallas, would they be going to the Wranglers? (Iknow Robertson or Borque wouldn't be)
There would be space on the roster for young talented players.

Right now we're staring down Kirkland as the 4C. He isn't guaranteed that spot. Klapka isn't guaranteed, neither is Pospisil really.

D is wide open as well.
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Old 07-14-2025, 08:16 AM   #4543
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Yeah, totally man. Definitely a reasonable return, lol.
It's not as crazy as you're suggesting...

Bichsel + 2nd for Andersson
Bourque for Pospisil

Probably favours the Flames, depending on your view of Pospisil, but it's pretty reasonable, asset-wise, and it suits both teams' needs (win-now players vs youth)
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Not to stoke the fire of the "should they or should they not trade Kadri" argument, but Kadri's comments this week about the rumours of him being a trade target, particularly fof the Leafs, were interesting IMO.


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In spending parts of nine seasons with the Maple Leafs, Kadri knows how loud the noise can be in the hockey mecca of the world, a hot topic of conversation after the team bowed out in the second round to the eventual champion Florida Panthers. Yet, with all of the noise and talk about him possibly returning to his roots, Kardi welcomes the conversation.

“You know what? And why not? I mean, there’s not a whole lot in terms of sports going on right now. I think it’s definitely a topic to talk about, and hey, why not talk about it?”
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/lo...ade-rumors-nhl
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Old 07-14-2025, 08:47 AM   #4545
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Not to stoke the fire of the "should they or should they not trade Kadri" argument, but Kadri's comments this week about the rumours of him being a trade target, particularly fof the Leafs, were interesting IMO.




https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/lo...ade-rumors-nhl
Yeah, I mean nothing earth shattering in there but it's certainly not a player saying "no, I would never return".

I think it'd be cool to see Kadri go back to Toronto. It makes sense for both sides. It'd be a fun sports story for Toronto, who would ultimately lose to the Florida Panthers anyways, and the Flames could hand things over to Frost and Zary in a bigger way + bring back some assets. Those are all positive things.

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I imagine Daily Faceoff is selectively pulling quotes from the source to add fuel to the fire, but I haven't listened to the interview yet.

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Old 07-14-2025, 08:59 AM   #4546
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With the Leafs not having much to offer though I struggle to see a fit.

28 1st + Cowan would be the starting point but it’s pretty underwhelming to say the least.
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With the Leafs not having much to offer though I struggle to see a fit.

28 1st + Cowan would be the starting point but it’s pretty underwhelming to say the least.
I would do that in a heartbeat
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Old 07-14-2025, 09:18 AM   #4548
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I would do that in a heartbeat
Agreed. People talk about future draft picks negatively since they're years away from contributing. But the '28 Leafs first could be a heck of an asset.

We've seen Treliving act in desperation. Their situation is ripe for an overpay.

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Agreed. People talk about future draft picks negatively since they're years away from contributing. But the '28 Leafs first could be a heck of an asset.

We've seen Treliving act in desperation. Their situation is ripe for an overpay.
Assuming we can acquire another 2027 1st along the way, it could mean having 2 1st round picks 5 years in a row. That would/should result in a really solid core.

Also, Cowan gets under-valued sometimes, probably because he's a Leaf prospect and thus gets over-valued by the media.
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Old 07-14-2025, 09:32 AM   #4550
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I meant if you sub out Emming or Bertucci and put Bourque in place. Not Andersson for Bourque as one for one.

Ie. Bourque plus first plus one of Bertucci/emming for Andersson/popisil.
I would be really happy with this return, and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.
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Old 07-14-2025, 09:34 AM   #4551
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Not to stoke the fire of the "should they or should they not trade Kadri" argument, but Kadri's comments this week about the rumours of him being a trade target, particularly fof the Leafs, were interesting IMO.




https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/lo...ade-rumors-nhl

Kadri is obviously a competitive guy and I can't see him wanting to not seriously compete for the rest of his career.

I think this year will really dictate the direction these vets want to take.

If the wheels come off, I could see Kadri wanting out.
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Nothing ground breaking or imminent, but I’d put Dallas as the top bidder for Andersson now.

They want him on that 2nd pairing with Harley.
I feel they’re the team to beat at this point.
Athletic Wheeler has his top 100 prospect list under 23.
Stars are one of the teams that do not have a prospect on the list.
Has to make it harder to get a good deal from them.
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There would be space on the roster for young talented players.

Right now we're staring down Kirkland as the 4C. He isn't guaranteed that spot. Klapka isn't guaranteed, neither is Pospisil really.

D is wide open as well.
Kirkland and Morton are fine in that role.

We don't have room for more tweeners on the roster. We need to give our own players a solid shot, and especially Zary
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Athletic Wheeler has his top 100 prospect list under 23.
Stars are one of the teams that do not have a prospect on the list.
Has to make it harder to get a good deal from them.
Bischel matches the flames needs and timeline the best then imo. Harley isn’t going anywhere
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It's not as crazy as you're suggesting...

Bichsel + 2nd for Andersson
Bourque for Pospisil

Probably favours the Flames, depending on your view of Pospisil, but it's pretty reasonable, asset-wise, and it suits both teams' needs (win-now players vs youth)
For me this doesn't make sense for Dallas. For us we need to be mindful of size, the team can't getting smaller.
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Old 07-14-2025, 09:59 AM   #4556
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It's not as crazy as you're suggesting...

Bichsel + 2nd for Andersson
Bourque for Pospisil

Probably favours the Flames, depending on your view of Pospisil, but it's pretty reasonable, asset-wise, and it suits both teams' needs (win-now players vs youth)
Lets not forget that Dallas is the one bidding for Andersson.
CGY is in the posisition of power.

I fail to see how Bichsel + Bourque and a 2nd for Andersson and we're also giving up Pospisil is remotely out to lunch. I think its easily fair.
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Old 07-14-2025, 10:01 AM   #4557
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It's too bad pachal couldn't take another step.

Part of me wants to see a Bahl paired with a rugged mean rh D as a shutdown pairing.

And then let weegar and Zane run offense.
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It's too bad pachal couldn't take another step.

Part of me wants to see a Bahl paired with a rugged mean rh D as a shutdown pairing.

And then let weegar and Zane run offense.
I don't think the book is closed on Pachals development yet. He's only 25 and was undrafted. Just played his first year in the NHL. It wouldn't be crazy to suggest he has the ability to take a couple more steps.

Like if you look at someone like Weegar, he had a similar trajectory at this point in his career.

I think the biggest problem for Pachal is that he's a RHS. If he was LHS, I think he gets tried out in a top 4 role after Rasmus departs.
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I think Dallas has screwed themselves. They have a strong team but limited pieces (prospects, young players, picks) to make that final push.

They spent a bunch of capital in last 2-3 seasons.
.if they believe rantanen makes Robertson somewhat expendable then they have one last push they can make.

Deal Robertson and Bischel and hope that's the final tinkering.

Robertson and Bischel for Andersen and Coleman plus something.
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I don't think the book is closed on Pachals development yet. He's only 25 and was undrafted. Just played his first year in the NHL. It wouldn't be crazy to suggest he has the ability to take a couple more steps.

Like if you look at someone like Weegar, he had a similar trajectory at this point in his career.

I think the biggest problem for Pachal is that he's a RHS. If he was LHS, I think he gets tried out in a top 4 role after Rasmus departs.

Weegar played left D most of his career. That's why I'm saying he could slot with Zane.
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