06-13-2025, 05:30 PM
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Folks who wanna lock up Zary long term should be cautious. Mangiapane was a stud around here for a handful of seasons before entering a continuous decline. Injuries aside, he hasn't been good enough for a longer term contract. Unless, the aav is under 3m on a long-term deal, it's a pointless risk.
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06-13-2025, 06:02 PM
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#522
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Folks who wanna lock up Zary long term should be cautious. Mangiapane was a stud around here for a handful of seasons before entering a continuous decline. Injuries aside, he hasn't been good enough for a longer term contract. Unless, the aav is under 3m on a long-term deal, it's a pointless risk.
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It won't be under 3m on a long term deal, c'mon.
I get that a bridge might make more sense given the injuries, but he is a more well rounded player than Mang ever was. (Stud for a handful of seasons?).
It will be way under Coronato, but anything around 5 longer term is great IMO.
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06-13-2025, 06:07 PM
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#523
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Folks who wanna lock up Zary long term should be cautious. Mangiapane was a stud around here for a handful of seasons before entering a continuous decline. Injuries aside, he hasn't been good enough for a longer term contract. Unless, the aav is under 3m on a long-term deal, it's a pointless risk.
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I think you’re being a bit hard on Z- his only true negative is his injuries, which have perhaps hindered his developmental timeline. He’s done great for a youngster on a defensive squad, and when he breaks out, it will be huge. Mang was small, and not that great of a skater, which made his effectiveness wane when he wasn’t producing.
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06-17-2025, 06:49 AM
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#524
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Folks who wanna lock up Zary long term should be cautious. Mangiapane was a stud around here for a handful of seasons before entering a continuous decline. Injuries aside, he hasn't been good enough for a longer term contract. Unless, the aav is under 3m on a long-term deal, it's a pointless risk.
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I'm too lazy to look uo magianpanes stats, but I believe he was more of an outlier season that came at the wrong time for treliving.
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06-17-2025, 06:52 AM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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His goal totals were 17, 18, 35, 17, 14, 14 with the 35 goal season being the one that got him that contract. Similarly his point totals were 32, 32, 55, 43, 40, 28. He was an outlier explosive season that got him paid rather than a continually declining player.
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06-17-2025, 06:54 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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yeah, and I think many fans here were skeptical at the time too. Felt like an outlier at the time, and unfortunately, that's exactly what it was. Conroy did well to get a 2nd for him.
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06-19-2025, 04:00 PM
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#527
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Appealing my suspension
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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/642...cy-defensemen/
Came across this on NHL free agent defenceman. Most of these guys will be overpaid it projects. But it notes Dante Fabbro as a potential Weegar like breakout player.
Maybe if you can swing a deal for Rasmus, you could try and get Fabbro as a replacement. Although he is righthand. I still think you could play Weegar on the left side with Parehk.
Nate Schmidt is another name but after a really good playoff he might see a fair bit of interest. But if you throw money at him for the short term it might entice him. Also notes Nick Perbix as a player with tools who might put it together, but currently shows more as a third pair guy.
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06-19-2025, 04:16 PM
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#528
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/642...cy-defensemen/
Came across this on NHL free agent defenceman. Most of these guys will be overpaid it projects. But it notes Dante Fabbro as a potential Weegar like breakout player.
Maybe if you can swing a deal for Rasmus, you could try and get Fabbro as a replacement. Although he is righthand. I still think you could play Weegar on the left side with Parehk.
Nate Schmidt is another name but after a really good playoff he might see a fair bit of interest. But if you throw money at him for the short term it might entice him. Also notes Nick Perbix as a player with tools who might put it together, but currently shows more as a third pair guy.
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I’ve been thinking about Fabbro as a possible FA signing- by some accounts, he looked like a different player after the trade, with more ice-time and a better partner.
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06-20-2025, 02:02 PM
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#529
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I’ve been thinking about Fabbro as a possible FA signing- by some accounts, he looked like a different player after the trade, with more ice-time and a better partner.
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Flames could get him at his peak? The Flames could use an inferno. 
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07-12-2025, 01:03 PM
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#530
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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07-12-2025, 01:07 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Hell yeah... I think it's great when the boys embrace our city like this, especially in the off-season. Great stuff.
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07-12-2025, 01:56 PM
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#532
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Hell yeah... I think it's great when the boys embrace our city like this, especially in the off-season. Great stuff.
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An American player no less!
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07-12-2025, 02:04 PM
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#533
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Lifetime Suspension
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I see zero comparable with Zary and Mangipane.
Half the time it looked like a toddler learning to skate watching Mangiapane.
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07-12-2025, 02:44 PM
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#534
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I see zero comparable with Zary and Mangipane.
Half the time it looked like a toddler learning to skate watching Mangiapane.
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I always joked my with brother and father that you could have a drinking game with the amount of times he fell.
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07-12-2025, 02:44 PM
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#535
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Franchise Player
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Hartnell Down!
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07-12-2025, 02:48 PM
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#536
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An American player no less!
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Like last year he stays in Calgary in the off season. which as an American is great to see!
He was one of the first Flames at the Johnny memorial at the Dome last year.
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07-13-2025, 10:34 AM
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#537
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary
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Anyone see the list of top 75 forwards in the league in the NhL site? No flames. We did have 4 dmen in the top 125.
I feel like kadri should have made it. He has a remarkable season for his age.
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07-13-2025, 11:21 AM
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#538
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Get this guy signed to an 8 year extension.
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07-13-2025, 01:20 PM
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#539
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom
Anyone see the list of top 75 forwards in the league in the NhL site? No flames. We did have 4 dmen in the top 125.
I feel like kadri should have made it. He has a remarkable season for his age.
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Apparently there was a mistake and now Kadri is #75
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