[Rumour] Dreger: Bowen Byram trade talks heating up. Calgary one of many teams interested

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Blues should be able to push this one over the line now.

I don't think so. I think the Blues have cooled on Byram.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Dienasty

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Going back to my point Conroy decided to show loyalty to a group of veterans who got to the second round once in the last 10 years. The young guys now deserve the opportunity.
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What "group of veterans" have been with the Flames for 10 years?


Backlund...is the only one on the 2014-15 roster.
Backlund and Andersson are the only ones on the 2020-21 roster.


If you move all the way to 2022-23 you get a few more: Backs, Ras, Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman, Weegar. So, actually, Conny showed "loyalty" to a group from ... three years.



You can't make this stuff up. Or you can, and hope that nobody checks?

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Based on the rumours, it sounds like there are more buyers now. Even after free agent frenzy there is still need in Buffalo, Hurricanes, Sharks, Leafs, Vegas, Stars, Red Wings, Bruins, and maybe the Blues.

I expect the list of buyers will only shrink in the regular season as the contenders solidify their position and the other teams fall out of buying / building mode.

Many of those with needs will remain in need because there are finite assets left. If someone gets byram they can drop off the list but the others remain. Plus, come playoff time, teams with limited cap space but playoff assurances will show up. Tampa, Florida, Edmonton, Colorado and likely the Jets to name a few.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Nothing has changed since my post on Page 6. We're now on Page 45. Unless Conroy decides to pay BUF's ask, this isn't getting done. Both teams are content to let this ride out for now.

Flames don't feel any urgency in trading away Rasmus or acquiring Byram. This applies across their whole roster. They're more than happy to ride out the summer and head into the season. So I think for rumors and activity, this summer may be brutal for the fanbase anticipating moves.

Thanks for sharing on this, do you know anything about Conroy's offer or what Adams is asking for?

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by saillias

Thanks for sharing on this, do you know anything about Conroy's offer or what Adams is asking for?

I believe it to be Zary and CC not wanting to include him.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

I believe it to be Zary and CC not wanting to include him.

That lines up with the rumours around the Cozens trade too. They wanted Zary then and Conroy wouldn't go for it.

Between Cozens and Byram, I would have been more willing to part with Zary for Cozens. LD isn't a big enough of a need to justify adding Zary, IMO.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

I believe it to be Zary and CC not wanting to include him.

Good. I would not trade Zary straight up for Byram.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Roko

And how does it work if they are traded prior to the hearing? I do recall the flames doing this with Tkachuk to buy more time to organize a sign and trade without risk of offer sheet. Correct me if I am wrong

Yeah, the Flames did that with Tkachuk and a deal was done within a couple of days. I suspect the same will happen here. If Buffalo was worried about an offer sheet, it takes that leverage off the table for the player.

Although, if Byram wants to go to a new team, he'd be unlikely to sign an offer sheet anyway because Buffalo could have matched and he'd be stuck there for as long as his contract lasted.

Also, if he wants an 8 year deal, it will need to be a sign and trade like Tkachuk was too.

[Royle9]

Craig could have had Cozens for Zary.
Chose not to.
No way he gives up Zary for Byram now.

[Dienasty]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

What "group of veterans" have been with the Flames for 10 years?


Backlund...is the only one on the 2014-15 roster.
Backlund and Andersson are the only ones on the 2020-21 roster.


If you move all the way to 2022-23 you get a few more: Backs, Ras, Kadri, Huberdeau, Coleman, Weegar. So, actually, Conny showed "loyalty" to a group from ... three years.



You can't make this stuff up. Or you can, and hope that nobody checks?

Showed loyalty to a group of veterans that haven't made the playoffs for 3 straight seasons and are declining.

But yes you got me only backlund and andersson have been in the flames system for 10+ years.

You win you are right.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Craig could have had Cozens for Zary.
Chose not to.
No way he gives up Zary for Byram now.

Yes. Conroy is very high on Zary. Feels there is a lot of potential and levels that he can get to.....which has been a contributing factor to why a contract has not yet been signed.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Dienasty

Showed loyalty to a group of veterans that haven't made the playoffs for 3 straight seasons and are declining.

Who, exactly, has Conroy shown loyalty to, except by re-signing Backlund? He's traded the majority of those veterans already, Andersson is on the trading block, Kadri has an NMC, Coleman a 10-team trade list, Huberdeau an untradeable contract. Were you expecting him to say ‘neener neener neener’ on their way out the door, or what?

But yes you got me only backlund and andersson have been in the flames system for 10+ years.

You win you are right.

You're the one who put the goalposts there.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Yes. Conroy is very high on Zary. Feels there is a lot of potential and levels that he can get to.....which has been a contributing factor to why a contract has not yet been signed.

Sorry, why is that?

Do you mean Conroy wants a much longer contract but Zary camp not willing?

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Sorry, why is that?

Do you mean Conroy wants a much longer contract but Zary camp not willing?

Yes. Precisely.

[Jiri Hrdina]

It makes sense. The Flames would want to sign Zary to term based on performance to this point, and a little bit of upside.

Zary will feel like he hasn't shown what he can really do yet, and therefore will want to go short with a bridge which gives him a chance to break out and really cash in.

They probably settle on 2 or 3 years.

[BigThief]

Glad Conroy holds Zary in such high regard, hope they start using him down the middle this season.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Yes. Conroy is very high on Zary. Feels there is a lot of potential and levels that he can get to.....which has been a contributing factor to why a contract has not yet been signed.

Smart, I think it would be a huge mistake to trade him. I see the same upside.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Glad Conroy holds Zary in such high regard, hope they start using him down the middle this season.

Yep, time for a veteran to take a back seat. Young guys need to be developed where they belong.

[FlamesAreOne]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Craig could have had Cozens for Zary.
Chose not to.
No way he gives up Zary for Byram now.

That’s one trade I personally would have pulled the trigger on.

[CFO]

Next 2 seasons are important for zary. He needs to stay healthy and show consistent offensive production. 40 plus points this upcoming season and 50+ points second season.