[Rumour] Dreger: Bowen Byram trade talks heating up. Calgary one of many teams interested

[Ashasx]

Byram is just... not very good. Whenever I watch him, I'm always left thinking that I'm not really sure what he does well. I don't think he moves the needle at all on this team.

I think trading him would kind of be similar to trading for Hamonic back in the day, but we don't even have our Gaudreau and Tkachuk yet.

I'd be very wary on what the Flames would give up in a deal for him. If it's anything involving our 2026 1st (I wouldn't even give up the Vegas pick up Byram), I'm praying the Flames lose this war.

[TheScorpion]

I don't think Byram really makes any sense for Calgary.

[devo22]

Kevin Bahls Jfresh card looks worse (29%) than when we acquired him (33%).

Not trashing the whole concept, but those cards aren't the be-all, end-all either.

[TheIronMaiden]

24 is just when D men start stepping into their own. Though I worry that he was over exposed in an awful Buffalo franchise.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't think Byram really makes any sense for Calgary.

How do you figure? No guys that can provide offence on the left side of the defence and a team that struggles to score and it makes no sense? Really?

[StrykerSteve]

Bryam generates offence better than most, and that’s precisely what the Flames lack. I can see a fit there.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by devo22

Kevin Bahls Jfresh card looks worse (29%) than when we acquired him (33%).

Not trashing the whole concept, but those cards aren't the be-all, end-all either.

Well, part of that would be because Bahl and Andersson were not a good pairing.

I look forward to Andersson not being here so that we can blow that pairing up and see what Bahl can do with someone else.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Well, that would be because Bahl and Andersson were not a good pairing.

all I'm saying is that Flames fans are overwhelmingly happy with him signing a long-term deal, whereas the card pretty much says he sucks. Lots of factors to be considered when it comes to judging a player.

[AC]

Byram - Weegar
Bahl - Parekh

Would be a pretty nice top 4 to build around. I guess the question is does this block a spot for Brzustewicz long-term?

Hanley, Pachal, Bean, and Miromanov are all replacement level spot-fillers at this point, as good as Hanley and Pachal have been in their elevated roles. If any of Brz, Morin, Grushnikov, Solovyov, or Kuznetsov play their way onto the team, the 3rd pairing with Pachal/Hanley/Bean seems like a good spot to start on.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Bryam generates offence better than most, and that’s precisely what the Flames lack. I can see a fit there.

It depends on the acquisition cost. Adding a 40 point defenseman probably doesn't help the overall offense that much. Not that incremental improvement isn't worth pursuing, but the increment needs to reflect the acquisition cost (i.e. not trading someone like Zary to get him as was suggested).

[Ashes]

I would hedge that Byram's defensive game would improve playing under Huska, if there's one thing you can absolutely say about this organization, they've done a hell of a job with young d-men over the last few years IMO.

With that in mind, if we got Byram now for a reasonable deal and in future he had to be dealt, I would go out on a limb and say he would have even more value down the road than he does now, after playing in a good system and being force-fed PP time and opportunity here to be a top 1-2 D. Makes alot of sense for the Flames.

[Ped]

The Flames could actually really use a guy that can play the puck on their backend, with Andersson likely leaving, but they have a ton of younger guys that would that opportunity, too

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't think Byram really makes any sense for Calgary.

Yeah? Well you know, that’s just like uhh, your opinion man.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't think Byram really makes any sense for Calgary.

What? Why?

[TheScorpion]

I think he'll cost too much and already coasts a bit too much on his reputation. I liked the fit when he first went to Buffalo but I don't buy that he's worth giving up anything of significant value for at this point. If it's for a huge discount, fine.

[foofighter15]

Like the idea of him but we just cannot give up offence for defense right now

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

Like the idea of him but we just cannot give up offence for defense right now

Just like Dr Pepper

[Ashes]

Going into a year where the Flames could see a drop-off again and have a decently high pick in a good draft, I'd gladly take the offence-first d-man over the stay-at-home guys.

At least make the games exciting! Parekh/Byram in OT would be fun to watch. Entertainment value during a rebuild is also important.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think he'll cost too much and already coasts a bit too much on his reputation. I liked the fit when he first went to Buffalo but I don't buy that he's worth giving up anything of significant value for at this point. If it's for a huge discount, fine.

The acquisition cost is key

I see the intrigue of the following d-core long term:

Byram - Weegar
Bahl - Parekh
Morin - Brzustewicz

But only as long as Byram doesn't cost too much.

It's also a bit small long term, if you compare it to teams that have won the cup the d-core is all bigger

[browna]

If the Flames can get off of Pospisil as part of this, should go ahead. He's a warrior but that style means he's one or two more big hits away from being out of the league, like Ferland was when Treliving traded him to Carolina.