[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[SuperMatt18]

Blues are also the type of team that would have the guts to trade for him without an extension and try to convince him to stay over the course of the season

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by LokiMotion

If he said no to LA who is an actual contender (given better coaching), I don't see how he says yes to the blues.

But if he does, who could they possibly trade? I doubt Kyrou or Thomas are part of a return. And tbh i have no idea of their prospects

I don't think LA is a contender. I really don't see any way they win the cup next year.

My list of contenders would be Panthers, Oilers, Hurricanes, Avalanche, Knights and the Lightning.

The Panthers have no cap space, the Oilers have no space and Andersson hates them, the Lightning and Avs have no space.

That is why I understand Vegas as his preferred destination. They are really the only contender who could possibly fit him in. And along with knowing Hanifin and the tax situation, I understand it to a degree.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.

Something around Dvorsky + 2026 protected 1st would be lovely. That's assuming he'd sign there, of course.

They have Leddy and Fowler coming off the books next year, and Krug likely to never play again.

Could make sense for both sides, if Ras is willing...

Dvorsky unlikely but I’ll take Stenberg plus a 1st and 2nd please

[Krynn]

Ras better wake up and realize it doesn't matter where you go ,if you don't bounce back and have great year you aren't getting paid that big contract he's looking for.i say if no one is willing to
Give us what we want we keep him this upcoming season and hope he truns it around and we trade him to a contender at the deadline who ever gives us the best package of picks / Prospects. Screw him on telling us where we will trade him 2.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Krynn

Ras better wake up and realize it doesn't matter where you go ,if you don't bounce back and have great year you aren't getting paid that big contract he's looking for.i say if no one is willing to
Give us what we want we keep him this upcoming season and hope he truns it around and we trade him to a contender at the deadline who ever gives us the best package of picks / Prospects. Screw him on telling us where we will trade him 2.

No. Just auction him off this off season and move on. Don’t have a moody player around the team.

[Yanda]

Just trade him as a rental and file a tampering complaint. Shouldnt be trading with Vegas at all until we have used their unprotected 1st.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Blues are also the type of team that would have the guts to trade for him without an extension and try to convince him to stay over the course of the season

If stl isn’t on the no trade list, that’s something that we need to explore

The other approach is to take bad money back in any deal. That will help to maximize the return.

I do like the TBL idea. They are low tax and have to get through Florida. Best asset is Isaac Howard, who might walk as unsigned draft pick. But if we can get him signed, that’s a decent return. No bad money.

Toronto - looking to rid themselves of David Kampf. While I’m loathe to help them and the wizard, would send ras there instead of Vegas. Kampf plus Cowan plus a second rounder?

Stl - not sure what they would offer. A first and one of the Zach’s (bolduc or Dean)

LA - no whopper without extension a first and Alex Turcotte? Or greentree straight up?

Dallas - need help taking Money back. Dumba and lybushkin we can take on. But what else can they send us. A first? Motivated buyer so a first and maybe a prospect on top of it?

Carolina - multiple firsts but believe they will focus on forwards. If we take Kotkaniemi back, can we get a good return? Need fo get past Florida. Koktaniemi and a first?

[YyjFlames]

This whole thread is…

[DeluxeMoustache]

Yeah

Ras is within his rights and being reasonable. Conroy is dealing with the situation as best he can. Nobody is acting in bad faith

Sometimes situations are what they are

Lots of very immature nonsense in this thread

[Tbull8]

If the blues offered up dvorsky or Stenberg that would be amazing

[Sandman]

The Blues have some interesting pieces if they don't want to part with Dvorsky or Stenberg:

-RW Justin Carbonneau: freshly drafted, he's got size (6'2",205lbs), speed, and physicality, and is an underrated offensive winger who was 2nd in Q scoring.

-D Quinton Burns: Big defenseman with snarl, and a good two-way game, he has put up 100 PIM or more in three OHL seasons, and had 49 points in 66 games this year.

-RW Jimmy Snuggerud: No way they part with this kid, especially after putting up 51 points in 40 NCAA games, and 4 points in 7 NHL playoff games. We can dream, though.

-W Jake Neighbors: Would the blues part with Neighbors in a package for Rasmus Andersson? Likely not, but he would be an excellent addition- 6'0",200lb winger from Airdrie is quite feisty, and put up 46 points this season for the Blues, with 6 points in 7 playoff games.

-D Lukas Fischer: See Quinton Burns. Fischer wore the "C" for Sarnia this season, and is still 18, despite being drafted in 2024.

-C/W Tomas Mrsic: Speedy 6'0",170lb winger put up 90 points in his D+1 season for Prince Albert.

-RW Adam Jecho: Huge (6'5",201lbs) winger, who skates well for his size, put up 53 points in 56 games in his D+1 season for Edmonton of the WHL.

-C/LW Nikita Alexandrov: He's going to be 25 in September, but the second-rounder from 2019 (who is 6'1",and 176lbs) put up 49 points in 48 AHL games. He's a speedy, two-way forward.

-LHC Aleksanteri Kaskimaki: Underrated 6'0" speedster had 34 points in 63 AHL games as a rookie.

-LW Ondrej Kos: Jakub's brother is a 6'2" power-winger who projects as more of a middle-six defensive player with physicality- but he's a good skater and handler, with a tight two-way game.

-RW Simon Robertsson: 6'0".190lb Swedish power-forward, with a dangerous shot, and good finishing ability. Only 26 games this year in the AHL before getting injured, with 6 goals and 13 points, as a 22 year-old.

-D Adam Jiricek: Excellent two-way defenseman who was drafted 16th-overall a year ago, but can't stay healthy.

-D Theo Lindstein: 6'0",190lbs two-way, puck-moving rearguard was drafted 29th-overall in 2023.

-D Colin Ralph: 6'5",227lb rearguard who skates well for his size, and can contribute in all areas.

-LHC Zach Dean: Another injury-prone forward, he only played 11 games this season in the AHL, putting up only 4 points. He was drafted 30th-overall in 2021 by VGK, and at his best, he's a speedy, playmaking pivot.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by getbak

That's what I've been thinking. So many people seem convinced they should have moved him last year for a huge return, but how often does that sort of thing happen?

I haven't done a deep dive, but it seems to me that teams overpay for players at the deadline all the time, but players with term tend to get moved for other players with term.



I'd be curious to see if anyone has done an analysis into when teams get the best return on trades.

• Mid-season (incl. deadline) in the final year of player's contract before UFA.
• Mid-season (incl. deadline) when the player has at least one more season on his contract (or is a pending RFA).
• Off-season prior to the player's final year of his contract before UFA.
• Off-season when the player has more than one season left on his contract.

Also, how much of a premium do teams pay to acquire a player who is willing to sign a long-term extension after the trade?

I think there's certain players who are better deadline pickups than offseason. Good role players who may be too expensive for the whole year. For example, Coleman is a good deadline pickup - he adds a defensive boost and can shore up a weaker middle six. Backlund would be like that too. And there are guys you'd want for the whole season - I would have thought Rasmus.

I think if it's more than a one year the chances are you are trading up (Vegas trades guys with more time, but to get better players), or if there's trouble in the room. Markstrom was an anomoly and there were big reasons behind it - Wolf in particular.

[Ped]

This is where NHL GMs need to be a little more assertive. Too many play it safe. If you think Andersson is someone that can help your team and your interested in contending, then make the trade. You have a whole season with him. Maybe he'll decide that he wants to keep playing for you. Maybe not. But you do have him for one full season.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Yup, I believe they were second in on Hanifin, and Andersson is the better player. He would fit in great there, perfect fit, other than them having absolutely no assets to trade?

I'd take a chance on Geekie and a 1st

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ped

This is where NHL GMs need to be a little more assertive. Too many play it safe. If you think Andersson is someone that can help your team and your interested in contending, then make the trade. You have a whole season with him. Maybe he'll decide that he wants to keep playing for you. Maybe not. But you do have him for one full season.

Look at the comments here when an aggressive deal or the proverbial "bold move" doesn't work out.

[Hells Bells]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I don't think LA is a contender. I really don't see any way they win the cup next year.

My list of contenders would be Panthers, Oilers, Hurricanes, Avalanche, Knights and the Lightning.

The Panthers have no cap space, the Oilers have no space and Andersson hates them, the Lightning and Avs have no space.

That is why I understand Vegas as his preferred destination. They are really the only contender who could possibly fit him in. And along with knowing Hanifin and the tax situation, I understand it to a degree.

I'd add the Stars to the contenders list.

They're better than Vegas IMO.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Hells Bells

I'd add the Stars to the contenders list.

They're better than Vegas IMO.

Yeah, Vegas didn't look great against Minnesota of all teams, and gave Edmonton the least trouble in the POs, shut out in the last two games.

That said, Vegas really needs a D.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Look at the comments here when an aggressive deal or the proverbial "bold move" doesn't work out.

GMs add players at the deadline all the time who are on expiring deals with no guarantee they will re-sign.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

The Blues have some interesting pieces if they don't want to part with Dvorsky or Stenberg:

-RW Justin Carbonneau: freshly drafted, he's got size (6'2",205lbs), speed, and physicality, and is an underrated offensive winger who was 2nd in Q scoring.

-D Quinton Burns: Big defenseman with snarl, and a good two-way game, he has put up 100 PIM or more in three OHL seasons, and had 49 points in 66 games this year.

-RW Jimmy Snuggerud: No way they part with this kid, especially after putting up 51 points in 40 NCAA games, and 4 points in 7 NHL playoff games. We can dream, though.

-W Jake Neighbors: Would the blues part with Neighbors in a package for Rasmus Andersson? Likely not, but he would be an excellent addition- 6'0",200lb winger from Airdrie is quite feisty, and put up 46 points this season for the Blues, with 6 points in 7 playoff games.

-D Lukas Fischer: See Quinton Burns. Fischer wore the "C" for Sarnia this season, and is still 18, despite being drafted in 2024.

-C/W Tomas Mrsic: Speedy 6'0",170lb winger put up 90 points in his D+1 season for Prince Albert.

-RW Adam Jecho: Huge (6'5",201lbs) winger, who skates well for his size, put up 53 points in 56 games in his D+1 season for Edmonton of the WHL.

-C/LW Nikita Alexandrov: He's going to be 25 in September, but the second-rounder from 2019 (who is 6'1",and 176lbs) put up 49 points in 48 AHL games. He's a speedy, two-way forward.

-LHC Aleksanteri Kaskimaki: Underrated 6'0" speedster had 34 points in 63 AHL games as a rookie.

-LW Ondrej Kos: Jakub's brother is a 6'2" power-winger who projects as more of a middle-six defensive player with physicality- but he's a good skater and handler, with a tight two-way game.

-RW Simon Robertsson: 6'0".190lb Swedish power-forward, with a dangerous shot, and good finishing ability. Only 26 games this year in the AHL before getting injured, with 6 goals and 13 points, as a 22 year-old.

-D Adam Jiricek: Excellent two-way defenseman who was drafted 16th-overall a year ago, but can't stay healthy.

-D Theo Lindstein: 6'0",190lbs two-way, puck-moving rearguard was drafted 29th-overall in 2023.

-D Colin Ralph: 6'5",227lb rearguard who skates well for his size, and can contribute in all areas.

-LHC Zach Dean: Another injury-prone forward, he only played 11 games this season in the AHL, putting up only 4 points. He was drafted 30th-overall in 2021 by VGK, and at his best, he's a speedy, playmaking pivot.

I was looking at their prospects and felt like there was a fit.

Quinton Burns sounded like a good fit.

Burns, cond. 2026/20271st (top 10 protected, unprotected 2027 1st), Krug (LTIR) for Andersson.

[Nelson]

I think Dalibor Dvorsky is a legitimate number 1 center prospect. I think the trade would need to be 1 for 1, or the Flames might even need to add to Andersson to get Dvorsky.

Perhaps the add could be 50% retention or even taking on Krug’s contract. That way, the Flames aren’t giving up futures.