[Signing] Conor Garland extension, 6 years for $36m

[PepsiFree]

Not that I particularly like the deal either, but 6x6 for this calibre of player at this stage of their career is going to become very normal, very quickly. People are going to have to re-adjust their contract expectations as the cap goes up and the new CBA comes into play.

[Ba'alzamon]

It's going to be very interesting to see how the people criticizing this deal react to Brock Boeser's next contract. Boeser is only one year younger and provides about the same level of offense most years.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

He's a 50 pt guy, now, at 28, But for how much longer? Once he's a 30-40 pt guy, how much value will he have?

I don't think the concern is that he stops producing. His skillset should be fine into his 30s. The concern is he's a pretty small guy who plays a lot along the boards and behind the net and there may be availability issues if he breaks down once the miles catch up to him. He's played full seasons for the Canucks the last 4 years but before that never hit 70 games. Which if that's what you meant by a 30-40 point guy (i.e. 30-40 points in 60 games) fair enough, but I guess the bet is they know where he's at physically and are willing to roll the dice on that.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

It's going to be very interesting to see how the people criticizing this deal react to Brock Boeser's next contract. Boeser is only one year younger and provides about the same level of offense most years.

Boeser has scored 40 goals and is likely to do that again with the right playmaker. Garland will never get close to 40.

I wouldn't pay more than $7.5X6 for Boeser, but I think that's a reasonable expectation for a player like him at his age.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Boeser has scored 40 goals and is likely to do that again with the right playmaker. Garland will never get close to 40.

I wouldn't pay more than $7.5X6 for Boeser, but I think that's a reasonable expectation for a player like him at his age.

What makes you think he's likely to do it again? That single 40 goal season was also the only time he's scored more than 29

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

It's going to be very interesting to see how the people criticizing this deal react to Brock Boeser's next contract. Boeser is only one year younger and provides about the same level of offense most years.

Career stats...

Boeser:
GPP: .368
PPG: .783

Garland:
GPG: .252
PPG: .600

Boeser has scored almost twice as many goals as Garland over their careers

Boeser can play on the top line. Garland is a middle sixer at best.

Also, Boeser is only 1 year younger, but the contracts will be for 2 years younger (Boeser's will start this year)

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

What makes you think he's likely to do it again? That single 40 goal season was also the only time he's scored more than 29

His shot. It's quick and accurate, a lot like Coronato's, and I very much believe Coronato has 40 goals in that stick.

Boeser's biggest issue has been staying healthy a full season, and yeah, that might hinder him from getting to 40 again.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

What makes you think he's likely to do it again? That single 40 goal season was also the only time he's scored more than 29

I think he can do it again. It's not a play-maker issue though. It's a health issue.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

The thing that makes up the gap is 5v5 scoring versus PP scoring.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Number 1 indicator of punchability? Turtleneck.

Putz.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/art...er-canucks-do/

[Icantwhisper]

What's the argument here?
Garland is a 20 goal scorer getting 6
Boeser is a 25-30 guy who may hit 40 but will sign for 8+
Garland has other traits that add value that are different than what Boeser brings and can fit in top six but most likely is 3rd liner.
Whoever signs Boeser is going to over pay, he is what he is, probably a 40 goal guy most years as long as he stays healthy. He just doesn't, he's a 25 goal guy because he'll play 65 games a year

[CroFlames]

I like the player and don't mind the deal. Contract seems a tad rich, but when you think about where the cap is going, this is the new 4x4. Bottom pair d-men will be making 3-4 mil in a few years.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

What's the argument here?
Garland is a 20 goal scorer getting 6
Boeser is a 25-30 guy who may hit 40 but will sign for 8+
Garland has other traits that add value that are different than what Boeser brings and can fit in top six but most likely is 3rd liner.
Whoever signs Boeser is going to over pay, he is what he is, probably a 40 goal guy most years as long as he stays healthy. He just doesn't, he's a 25 goal guy because he'll play 65 games a year

The argument is that he maxes out as a 20 goal scorer, and in his 30s (when this contract is in effect), he will not be a 20 goal scorer, and when he isn't $6M will be an ugly contract for a very small bottom 6er

(the only reference to Boeser was that someone claimed they have similar production, which they do not)

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The argument is that he maxes out as a 20 goal scorer, and in his 30s (when this contract is in effect), he will not be a 20 goal scorer, and when he isn't $6M will be an ugly contract for a very small bottom 6er

(the only reference to Boeser was that someone claimed they have similar production, which they do not)

Fair enough, the contract for Garland is meh, I think he's the type of player who gets results by working hard and not pure talent.
Don't think it will age that badly. Worst case he still puts in 15 a year

[3rd liner]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

the most punchable face on the Canucks. Glad we can see him for another 7 years.

Evander Kane says hi.....