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Old 06-27-2025, 09:20 AM   #2001
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I personally just find it hard to believe the Flames could get Robertson just straight up for Andersson. The Flames likely would have to add. But crazier things have happened
Ras at 50% and we take back Dumba and the Russian d. That’s good value for them for cap relief. Maybe they can sign Marner with the savings.
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Kypreos saying leafs are shopping Nick Robertson. If we get Jason, do you bring in Nick to solidify keeping Jason in the fold long term. He’s no Freddie Hamilton, but at same time, wouldn’t hurt to be able to play with your brother (others may not be able to offer same). Nick isn’t ideal given he’s a winger and is smaller, but he’s serviceable and that could be our pitch to Jason to commit long term.
I've always thought he could pop if given a sustained opportunity elsewhere.
That being said, at some point you just have too many forwards that are all in the same approximate range skill and production wise.
So probably not.
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Old 06-27-2025, 09:20 AM   #2003
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Andersson for Robertson would be like v2 of Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall.
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Why would they have to add? Dallas is up against the cap and Rasmus is on a nice deal.
Plus the Flames could retain 50% which helps them make some more moves this summer, and could let them discuss an extension they'd be happy with signing July 1st. Not that far fetched IMO.
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Andersson for Robertson would be like v2 of Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall.
How'd that work out for the Devils?
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Robertson for Andersson is such a talent win for the Flames that they would almost have to do it if it was offered but it is not the best fit for Calgary considering this team has so many left shot wingers and is already paying one $10.5M
And a significant speed loss. Andersson's top speed is in the 70th percentile in the league; Robertson's is ~13th. For additional comparison's sake, Huberdeau is 57th.

I didn't watch the Edmonton-Dallas series; is it possible that Dallas is potentially offering up Robertson because he isn't able to keep up with the speed of the game?
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Kypreos saying leafs are shopping Nick Robertson. If we get Jason, do you bring in Nick to solidify keeping Jason in the fold long term. He’s no Freddie Hamilton, but at same time, wouldn’t hurt to be able to play with your brother (others may not be able to offer same). Nick isn’t ideal given he’s a winger and is smaller, but he’s serviceable and that could be our pitch to Jason to commit long term.
Only if you'd get the same effect for Jason by playing Nick on the Wranglers.
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How'd that work out for the Devils?
Hall was a Hart trophy winner with the Devils so... pretty good.
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Andersson for Robertson would be like v2 of Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall.
A trade in which the team that “lost” the trade initially actually got the better end of the deal in which the hot shot scorer basically did nothing to help his new team get better? While the boring defenseman brought stability to a team that sorely needed it?

I love to dunk on the Oilers and they definitely could have got better value for Hall at the time but I thought at the time and still do now that they got the better end of that one, all things considered. Hall’s Hart trophy was just for the memes. Didn’t amount to anything for Jersey.
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Frank was throwing out the notion of Dallas dumping enough salary to take a run at Marner which would be wild. I do t see how they somehow free up $12M
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Frank was throwing out the notion of Dallas dumping enough salary to take a run at Marner which would be wild. I do t see how they somehow free up $12M
I can be convinced for a couple 1st round picks
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Old 06-27-2025, 09:25 AM   #2012
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Flames have thee space to take on all Dallas needs to move
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A trade in which the team that “lost” the trade initially actually got the better end of the deal in which the hot shot scorer basically did nothing to help his new team get better? While the boring defenseman brought stability to a team that sorely needed it?

I love to dunk on the Oilers and they definitely could have got better value for Hall at the time but I thought at the time and still do now that they got the better end of that one, all things considered. Hall’s Hart trophy was just for the memes. Didn’t amount to anything for Jersey.
He as pretty productive for them, and even then at the end of his time there, they were able to recoup a lot of asset quality:

2019-Dec-16 Traded from New Jersey Devils with Blake Speers to Arizona Coyotes for Kevin Bahl, Nate Schnarr, Nick Merkley, conditional round 1 pick in the 2020 draft (Dawson Mercer) and conditional round 3 pick in the 2021 draft (Ryder Korczak)


I don't know how that is anything but an easy win for the Devils. Larsson was lost for nothing in an expansion draft.
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After watching Robertson for the past couple seasons in Toronto, I honestly don't think his potential or chances are even close to as high as his brother. His confidence has been shot in Toronto, that's for sure, but even when he does play, he doesn't have on ice awareness to be in the right place to make things happen. He's virtually invisible. He's one of those guys who can't adjust to the speed of the NHL and just watches the game while it moves past him. To me at this point the guy is worth a third rounder at best. Treliving can keep him.
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Frank was throwing out the notion of Dallas dumping enough salary to take a run at Marner which would be wild. I do t see how they somehow free up $12M
Rasmus - 2.275

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Robertson - 7.75
Duma - 3.75
Russian D - 3.25

So 13.75 out. 2.275 in. That’s almost 11.5 right there
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Leaf's are in a tough position, they just don't have much in terms of movable assets to make a trade.

UFA class is weak, could be an interesting offseason
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Leaf's are in a tough position, they just don't have much in terms of movable assets to make a trade.

UFA class is weak, could be an interesting offseason
Looks good on the wiz!
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Hall was a Hart trophy winner with the Devils so... pretty good.
If Robertson gets a Hart trophy, a fifteenth place 97 point finish, a first round loss and a 17th overall pick, I will personally not think it is that great, but at least the next chapter of the Devils would be pretty alright... Immediately thrown into a rebuild kicking and screaming getting 1oa picks against all odds and trading their Hart trophy winning player for Bahl and a mid first would all be fine.
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Rasmus - 2.275

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Robertson - 7.75
Duma - 3.75
Russian D - 3.25

So 13.75 out. 2.275 in. That’s almost 11.5 right there
Let’s take Johnston instead of Robertson, then they save even more!
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Frank was throwing out the notion of Dallas dumping enough salary to take a run at Marner which would be wild. I do t see how they somehow free up $12M
Playing around...

Trade Robertson, Steel & Dumba for Andersson at 50% + picks/prospects?
- $7.75 mil - $2.1 mil - $3.75 mil + $2.275 mil = $11.325 more cap space for Dallas

Getting close. But they still have to fill out the rest of the roster.

Maybe Seguin or Hintz at least start the season on LTIR?
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