[News] Subject to ratification CBA reached until 2030

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I don’t understand the first point of Friedman’s. It’s already eight years for your own free agent and seven years for someone else’s. What’s the change?

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I don’t understand the first point Friedman is. It’s already eight years for your own free agent and seven years for someone else’s. What’s the change?

From the wording, I take it to mean it would change to a max seven year contract, when signing someone else's free-agent. Implied from that would be that the max would be six years when extending your own. A promotion of player movement, if you will. No idea if I'm truly understanding this correctly, though, as the wording isn't clear, at least not to me.

[FlamesAddiction]

I'd be all in favour of reducing the preseason whether they add additional real games or not. It seems like it turned into more of a way to get extra money before you have to start cutting cheques to the players.

If they wanted to, they could just get rid of pre-season games, add games to the regular season, but give teams like 8 games in to make final cuts down to a 23 man roster.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I don’t understand the first point of Friedman’s. It’s already eight years for your own free agent and seven years for someone else’s. What’s the change?

He did write it poorly.

the article has been updated:

Dropping maximum-length contracts from eight years (your own player) and seven (another team's free agent), to seven and six, respectively.

[Finger Cookin]

That makes sense, thanks for the update!

[Paulie Walnuts]

4/5 would have been ideal but it’s a start.

[Reggie Dunlop]

The EBUG proposal is a bit odd. I'm assuming it's not meant to be a de facto third stringer, but a guy that travels with the team who may never play a game.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

The EBUG proposal is a bit odd. I'm assuming it's not meant to be a de facto third stringer, but a guy that travels with the team who may never play a game.

Probably to be able to run full practice if goalie(s) need maintenance days. Until your EBUG goes down and then you need the Zamboni guy.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

The EBUG proposal is a bit odd. I'm assuming it's not meant to be a de facto third stringer, but a guy that travels with the team who may never play a game.

It's such a rare thing to need an EBUG even on the bench, let alone play.

I wonder if maybe it's an issue of goalies aggravating injuries because they play through stuff, whereas if they had an EBUG that they were comfortable with, they might dress them in more situations.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

The EBUG proposal is a bit odd. I'm assuming it's not meant to be a de facto third stringer, but a guy that travels with the team who may never play a game.

I think there's a good case to be made for having a full time EBUG. The EBUG being used in practices to give the #1 goalie a bit more time off to recover, or work with the goalie coaches instead. The EBUG would get to experience the type of shots you don't shoot at your starter in practice. I think Kharn was commenting about taking some hard shots players wouldn't shoot at Kipper. I could also see the EBUG staying to help out some of the forwards after practice.

That said, I remember when the Flames had 3 goalies with Ramo, Hiller, and Ortio, and they hated it. Especially constantly switching in practice and not getting their own net to work on their game. That's why I don't see the EBUG getting the same type of practice the other 2 goalies get.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I think there's a good case to be made for having a full time EBUG. The EBUG being used in practices to give the #1 goalie a bit more time off to recover, or work with the goalie coaches instead. The EBUG would get to experience the type of shots you don't shoot at your starter in practice. I think Kharn was commenting about taking some hard shots players wouldn't shoot at Kipper. I could also see the EBUG staying to help out some of the forwards after practice.

That said, I remember when the Flames had 3 goalies with Ramo, Hiller, and Ortio, and they hated it. Especially constantly switching in practice and not getting their own net to work on their game. That's why I don't see the EBUG getting the same type of practice the other 2 goalies get.

By definition they should only see action that the others can’t or don’t want to see., including practice.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Maybe I’m confused but this seems like it leaves the NCAA issue virtually as-is and encourages even more players to go NCAA.

It seems to me, these negotiations are giving more power to players entering the league over where they play and in exchange, the league gets shorter max contracts

[sureLoss]

Seravalli reporting new CBA framework will be announced Friday:

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/nh...me-season-ltir

he four-year extension would kick in on Sept. 16, 2026 and carry through Sept. 15, 2030. With one more year remaining on this current CBA, that would provide five total years of continuity for a league with three previous work stoppages on record. This is the earliest the NHL and NHLPA will have concluded an extension prior to expiration in Bettman’s 32-year run as commissioner.

Here are some pertinent details of the agreement, according to both league and union sources:

• The NHL will move to 84-game regular seasons beginning in 2026-27. The preseason will be shortened, to an expected four games per team, and players with 100-plus career games played can play in a maximum of two preseason games.
• Player contracts will be term limited to a maximum of seven years for players re-signing with their current club and six years for players on the free agent market. The 2025-26 season (next week’s free agency) will mark the final eight-year deals in the NHL.
• A comprehensive playoff salary cap mechanism, which has many machinations to account for player acquisition, will effectively close the LTIR loophole for teams to significantly pad payroll by using injury relief space.
• Signing rights to draft picks will be uniform across the board until age 22, regardless of the league prospects are picked from or which league they matriculate to next. In other words, if an 18-year-old CHL player is drafted but decided to play NCAA, a team will still hold his rights for four years.
• Outlawing of player deferred salary in contracts, which previously lowered the cap hit of deals. This is one example of significantly more stringent contractual limitations that are expected to be in the new CBA for players.
• Revenue split will remain 50/50 between owners and players. There are not expected to be changes to the definitions of what constitutes hockey related revenue (HRR).
• Significant increase in Stanley Cup playoff bonus pool fund, nearly doubling previous amount.
• Establishment of ‘full-time’ Emergency Backup Goalie (EBUG) position within organizations so that amateur goalies signed out of beer league are not entering games in rare injury circumstances.
• Landmark player benefit improvements (health insurance and post-playing health insurance stipends), plus movement of player payroll taxes and worker’s compensation premiums to be paid out of owner’s share.
• Teams will no longer be able to mandate player dress code for arriving/departing games.
• As previously announced in February, the next three seasons of the salary cap’s upper limit: $95.5 million, $104 million and $113 million.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

So you'd rather they rot in the ECHL?

Why would anyone have to rot in the ECHL?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Seravalli reporting new CBA framework will be announced Friday:

Teams will no longer be able to mandate player dress code for arriving/departing games.

[iloveicedhockey]

RIP beer league EBUGs.

[Finger Cookin]

This will allow Bettman ride off into the sunset very soon as he passes the torch to his successor. Which I think has been his goal sometime. I wouldn't be shocked if the 25/26 season is his last as commissioner.

[Gern Blankston]

I would really like to see the CBA limit the number of no trade clauses. It makes it more difficult for some teams to compete. The less desirable locations are already at a disadvantaged in signing free agents, so it would be better to have an even playing field for trades. I would imagine players would object, but you could limit trade clauses to over 30 years old or number of years in the league. Or limit how many players per team can get clauses.

[Vinny01]

Super encouraging to see this happen without any labor disruption

[the-rasta-masta]

Looks well thought out and addresses most of the issues. I’m all for less preseason games but a small part of me is sad that the days of surprise players playing well in preseason and making the team out of nowhere is probably over. Teams will need to ice the vets for a few games to get them ready for the season and the young guys won’t get as much of a tryout.