Recommend (or don't) a movie thread v2

[Locke]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Still haven’t seen Hereditary.

Texted my brother who works for Peter Jackson’s Weta in New Zealand (was on that Robbie Williams ape movies last). Told him he has to watch 28 years later. He texts back that he has watched it twice over the weekend.

It was a bit of brakes after the beginning but I’ve never understood criticizing movies by thinking it should have been done how I would like it. It’s not your movie it’s there’s. I don’t know how to make I movies, so why would I want to watch my own, I want to watch this weirdos movie not the boardroom massaged movie.

Woah...wait, what? And of all the times you've been in my office and seen all my stuff you never mentioned this?? We're going to have words.

[Fuzz]

I think I could get my wife to watch 28 years later with me, but I need to convince her scary zombies are a small part of it. So, uh, how big a part of it are they?

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I think I could get my wife to watch 28 years later with me, but I need to convince her scary zombies are a small part of it. So, uh, how big a part of it are they?

I think you'd be fine. The human element takes center stage. There are a couple scary moments, and a few jump scares... but less than in 28 Days (or Weeks) Later. I would say maybe 20% of the movie is zombie fuelled. Much of it is how to deal with grief, loss, and the afterlife. The opening is the scariest part, but it lasts just over five minutes.

[trackercowe]

So since the Mystery Movie was Jurassic World I may as well give my early thoughts. It was a big improvement over the last two, and probably the best of the Jurassic World series.. Yet we're still talking about low hanging fruit here. It felt more like a Gareth Edwards monster movie mixed with Jurassic Park. Some of the set pieces were exceptional, and one or two were the best I've seen since the first movie. The "majesty" of seeing dinosaurs on the big screen felt real, and I'm sure kids loved seeing them on the big screen.

The series works much better in the jungle than in the city scape, and laboratories. They never took the opportunity to mix dinosaurs with people, but it's better to keep it simple and stick with what works. You can tell the movie was written by David Koepp, as it the plot is more in line with the Jurassic Park series, and less contrived...

Yet it still falls apart miserably in other ways. Some of the performances were laughable. You can tell a few of the actors were merely cashing paycheques, and sleepwalked through the movie. Some of the characters were complete morons, and the movie didn't hold my suspension of disbelief. The movie was predictable and cookie-cutter as it gets, with no surprises. I felt bored because of it, as how can a movie have stakes when it's a cardboard cutout of similar movies. You know what to expect in these 200 million dollar family blockbusters, and Rebirth is no exception. The one time I thought I was wrong they pulled the reverse-Uno card in a contrived non-sensical manner. The movie had to wrap up, and they didn't want to break new ground.

Finally these crossbreed mutants are just dumb! They don't look good on screen, and the gene splicing is laughable. The argument they make make is that people got bored of seeing dinosaurs after a few years, so they had to make something new! Outright idiotic. What child would ever get bored of seeing dinosaurs? I was just in Honduras seeing sloths... and the place is always packed! People don't get bored of nature. Especially not freaking dinosaurs! Creating them for military reasons is lame enough, but this is just as bad. I don't think anyone enjoys mutant dinosaurs, and there's plenty of untouched ground they can still use. It's just frustrating when the real thing disappears when some freak dinosaur needs to take center stage.

Tldr: Rebirth is good for spectacle. The action scenes are tense and well done. There's fun to be had. It was an okay movie, but still a far cry from Jurassic Park, and even much of Lost World. I miss Roland Tembo! The only memorable character since the first movie.

I don't think there are any spoilers here... if anyone disagrees I'll hide my comments.

[btimbit]

I don't mind the idea of mutant dinosaurs, it's actually in line with the books as far as failed steps on the way to create these synthetic animals. Much better way to go than the intentional 'hybrids' of the last few movies.

But, I don't think they got the looks right. A little too alien looking, abomination, science experiment gone wrong. If they reigned it back a bit I think it would have been better.

Haven't seen the movie yet but that's my take on the reveals that I've seen. My question is whether they actually explore that in an interesting way, or if it's rather pointless to the plot and just an excuse to have monsters on screen. I'm sadly expecting the latter.

Holding out hope, I love the Jurassic Park series so much, I just pretend half the movies don't exist

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Yeah, I'm genuinely surprised given how the last three went, but JW: Rebirth was enjoyable. And I had no excitement for it whatsoever.

What it does that contrasts everything in the JW trilogy is it clearly has some self awareness of what these movies are supposed to be. As in, what people expected when they went to see JP before they took it completely off the rails. And that's OK given how much damage control was needed.

It was kind of back to basics. Survival on an island of dinos with where they have to accomplish a mission and get to an abandoned facility. Just with the added wrinkle of some new mutants (and I actually found the big bad one fun this time).

Definitely a monster movie, but in spirit that's also what JP was. Even borrows a bit from Jaws which was unexpected yet fun.

ScarJo and Mahershala Ali here were likable, and they even devoted screen time to giving them/their relationship some depth. That was refreshing after enduring the narcissistic vanilla power couple that was Own and Claire. And there's a family but they aren't nearly as annoying as the godawful Kirbys from 3.

But by far the biggest treat about this entire film is that they went back to the original music score. I was pleasantly surprised to hear it in all its glory, unaltered or shortened (hate how they remix them in most legacy sequels now, so unnecessary). They just let it play and when it would hit hardest. I definitely appreciated that seeing as it is one of the best of all time.

It's a low bar, but I'd put it on part with JP3.

TL;DR tasteful but safe sequel was a step in the right direction. Hurray Dinos!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I think you'd be fine. The human element takes center stage. There are a couple scary moments, and a few jump scares... but less than in 28 Days (or Weeks) Later. I would say maybe 20% of the movie is zombie fuelled. Much of it is how to deal with grief, loss, and the afterlife. The opening is the scariest part, but it lasts just over five minutes.

Thanks, that's the type of downplaying I can use to get myself into some real trouble!


Seriously though, we did watch 28 Days Later when it came out and she was fine then, but that was ages ago.

[troutman]

NY Times is doing a big feature this week on 100 greatest movies since 2000 (including celebrity polls):

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More than 500 influential directors, actors and other notable names in Hollywood and around the world voted on the best films released since Jan. 1, 2000. Here is how their ballots stacked up.

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[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I don't mind the idea of mutant dinosaurs, it's actually in line with the books as far as failed steps on the way to create these synthetic animals. Much better way to go than the intentional 'hybrids' of the last few movies.

But, I don't think they got the looks right. A little too alien looking, abomination, science experiment gone wrong. If they reigned it back a bit I think it would have been better.

Haven't seen the movie yet but that's my take on the reveals that I've seen. My question is whether they actually explore that in an interesting way, or if it's rather pointless to the plot and just an excuse to have monsters on screen. I'm sadly expecting the latter.

Holding out hope, I love the Jurassic Park series so much, I just pretend half the movies don't exist

Don't think too hard and you'll have a good time.

Even though motivations and explanations are far from fleshed out in much of any way other than to justify a dangerous mission to an uncontrolled island, its still the closest thing we've had to the Park-era films.

[Cappy]

Watched the new Mission Impossible yesterday. Oof.

Some of the stunts and action was cool (the sub); I thought the plane sequence was good, but not as good as the helicopter sequence in Fallout.

The rest of the movie was self-aggrandizing circle-jerk filled with some of the worst dialogue and a horrible "villain"

Removing the John Woo campiness, i think MI:2 was better, which means Dead reckoning is arguably the worst MI movie.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I think you'd be fine. The human element takes center stage. There are a couple scary moments, and a few jump scares... but less than in 28 Days (or Weeks) Later. I would say maybe 20% of the movie is zombie fuelled. Much of it is how to deal with grief, loss, and the afterlife. The opening is the scariest part, but it lasts just over five minutes.

I remember having fists in front of my face for the first half. Seemed more than 20%. Not that it matters, just lie to her either way.

[Locke]

Well..."The Surfer" was an intriguing foray into the descent into madness as well portrayed by Nic Cage.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Don't think too hard and you'll have a good time.

Even though motivations and explanations are far from fleshed out in much of any way other than to justify a dangerous mission to an uncontrolled island, its still the closest thing we've had to the Park-era films.

Perfect, sign me up!

Out of curiosity/for fun, where would you rank it among the series? Personally so far I have them like;

Jurassic Park
The Lost World: Jurassic Park

Jurassic World
Jurassic Park III



Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom



Jurassic World Dominion

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Perfect, sign me up!

Out of curiosity/for fun, where would you rank it among the series? Personally so far I have them like;

Jurassic Park
The Lost World: Jurassic Park

Jurassic World
Jurassic Park III



Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom



Jurassic World Dominion

I would put a much bigger gap between the original and the lost world. If not only because of that stupid ####ing gymnastics scene. Otherwise I think that looks like a pretty accurate list.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I would put a much bigger gap between the original and the lost world. If not only because of that stupid ####ing gymnastics scene. Otherwise I think that looks like a pretty accurate list.

Totally fair criticism. Ugh, the lost world could have been even better than the original JP if they strayed less from the book.

Mostly just curious where people think Rebirth slots in

[Locke]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Totally fair criticism. Ugh, the lost world could have been even better than the original JO if they strayed less from the book.

Mostly just curious where people think Rebirth slots in

Now, I might be wrong about this, but my understanding is that TLW was greenlit and filming before the book was even finished and they sort of made parts up as they went?

Kind of...filled in the blanks with Frog DNA as it were, so to speak.

So its not so much that they 'strayed from the book' but rather, just made up parts to finish the movie?

[btimbit]

Now that you say that that actually does ring a bell. I'm positive the book came out at least a few years before, but it's definitely possible the book and the movie were being written more or less at the same time

[Locke]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Now that you say that that actually does ring a bell. I'm positive the book came out at least a few years before, but it's definitely possible the book and the movie were being written more or less at the same time

I just vaguely recall that they were in such a rush to capitalize on JP's popularity that they just rushed to production?

So you've got one guy writing the script and another guy writing the book and the twain were never to meet!

But that was so long ago and I was but a young'un.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

Gremlins may be a good one.

I don't think this one aged very well. The runtime is just shy of 1 hour 50, but you don't even see a hint of a gremlin until well past the 40 minute mark. And the main character has all the personality of a turnip, every time he was on screen I was fighting the urge to look at my phone. They really should have made Judge Reinhold the lead, he walked all over the other guy in the short screentime he had. Then when you finally do get some gremlin action, they seem to be a minor nuisance at best. Kids finally checked out when the mom swiftly dispatched the 3 in her kitchen without breaking a sweat, and I couldn't be bothered to keep watching on my own

I'm quite surprised it's rated so highly on RT, it's pure 80's camp but without the humor or charisma that those movies need to stay relevant

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Mostly just curious where people think Rebirth slots in

For me:
Jurassic Park
The Lost World
Jurassic World: Rebirth = Jurassic Park 3
Jurassic World
A triceratops horn up the ###
Fallen Kingdom and Dominion

My friend:
Jurassic Park
The Lost World
Jurassic World: Rebirth
Jurassic Park 3
'World' trilogy (I think he's just indifferent about them)

It played like a mix up of TLW and JP3 plus some mutants.