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Old 06-22-2025, 02:30 PM   #641
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Marner's betting on himself which is cool and all but when will teams realize that you're paying him 1A money, but he will not lead your team in the playoffs because he physically can't. He's skilled and all, but he will not go through tough d, and he will not grind it out in the corners. When you pay him that much money he should be leading you in the playoffs by doing those exhausting things. He can't and won't.
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Old 06-22-2025, 02:39 PM   #642
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Would be pretty fun to have marner on a 2x14. Likely hurts the future though unless you flip him for a haul later.
He probably gets that cap hit at 7 years
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Old 06-22-2025, 02:40 PM   #643
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Couldn't be more wrong. Tavares is a guy who's been consistent in the playoffs. He plays smart and hard. He's not flashy at all so it's easy to not grab attention but he's there and he tries hard.
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Would be pretty fun to have marner on a 2x14. Likely hurts the future though unless you flip him for a haul later.
It's 2 years, how could this hurt our future?

Other than hurting our draft picks, but that ship has likely sailed anyway.

In any event, the offensive opportunities aren't located in Calagry.
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Old 06-22-2025, 02:56 PM   #645
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Career 0 941 PPG player in the regular season
Career 0.707 PPG player in the playoffs. 0 548 PPG combined in the last 3 playoffs, 0.538 PPG last playoffs, after a brutal 0.286 PPG the playoffs prior.
I’d argue a couple things. 1) Playoffs tightens up, 2) his linemates have been up and down so of course his production goes down too. Seriously, if you watch the games he’s among the better out there to play smart.
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Old 06-22-2025, 03:02 PM   #646
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Flames should sign Marner to a 1 year 15 million dollar deal just to trade him at the deadline.
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Old 06-22-2025, 03:08 PM   #647
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Career 0 941 PPG player in the regular season
Career 0.707 PPG player in the playoffs. 0 548 PPG combined in the last 3 playoffs, 0.538 PPG last playoffs, after a brutal 0.286 PPG the playoffs prior.
In fairness to Tavares, he has been so brutal in the playoffs which has led to a relatively small sample size (75 games) for a guy who is turning 35. In those 75 games he has 53 points so he is about a 58 point guy in the playoffs.
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Old 06-22-2025, 03:18 PM   #648
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Marner is considering taking a 2 year contract and wait until the cap rises considerably to get a much larger 8 year contract.

Presumably he might go to one of the teams with mega cap on a two year max deal as long as the offensive opportunities were there.
I just think this type of thing is insanely risky. Take your bag of cash now after you put up amazing numbers… don’t risk career ending injury or putting up more pedestrian numbers and then ending up with half the value you otherwise could have.

Take the money if it’s there. He should be signing a monster deal here.
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Old 06-22-2025, 03:27 PM   #649
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If you can get an uograde at D at low to minimal cost, you have to do it. If it blocks a current prospect, so be it. Gives kuznetsov more time to ripen. If he bolts for khl, so be it. Second round picks are statistically less likely to make the show. Not every pick will make it, and given the trades we’ve made and draftees since we too kuznetsov, he’s likely further down the depth chart.

If a player in the age range that we are looking for becomes available and is an upgrade on what we have , you have to pull the trigger. If it upsets a prospect and they bolt, oh well. Draft another prospect.
Sure, roster upgrades are cool. Like I said, if it is a choice between Kuznetsov and Poirier vs. Byram then I think that is a no-brainer.

However, if the choice is between finding out what we have with our home grown players vs. another year of Hanley (or some other vet) or adding Samuelsson then I am not sold that perpetually blocking our player development is worth it.

My hot take is that Samuelsson isn't a big prize, he is an injury-prone cap dump that the Sabres are trying to unload in order to keep their better players. He has 7 goals in 5 NHL seasons and he has missed almost half of those seasons due to injuries. The fact that his cap hit is on the wrong side of $4M doesn't help.

Leave the spot open for Kuznetsov, Solovyov, Poirier, Brzustewicz, Grushnikov, etc. to compete for.
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Agree with wolves. This team isn’t going to be competing for anything. It’s time to see what we have. We can always make trades to upgrade.
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Lebrun is reporting knights or kings for Marner with stars as long shots
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Old 06-22-2025, 04:01 PM   #652
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I've got some bad news. If we extrapolate only the last few hours, there will never be another NHL trade ever again.
Still valid. Sorry.
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Old 06-22-2025, 04:01 PM   #653
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Buffalo speculated trade with Calgary.
Fan based (Buffalo) from what I can tell, so no apparent validity at this point but I’m asking.

BUF receives:
Mews
Vladar * rights
Pospisil
4th rnd pick

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Still valid. Sorry.
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Lebrun is reporting knights or kings for Marner with stars as long shots

Stars? How on earth could the Stars fit that in?
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Old 06-22-2025, 04:07 PM   #656
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Buffalo speculated trade with Calgary.
Fan based (Buffalo) from what I can tell, so no apparent validity at this point but I’m asking.

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Mews
Vladar * rights
Pospisil
4th rnd pick

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I'll take it.
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Old 06-22-2025, 04:15 PM   #657
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Buffalo speculated trade with Calgary.
Fan based (Buffalo) from what I can tell, so no apparent validity at this point but I’m asking.

BUF receives:
Mews
Vladar * rights
Pospisil
4th rnd pick

CGY receive:
Byram
I think this works for Calgary well. Mews likely has no room to play here. Vladar is gone. Pospisil basically replaced by Klapka or they chase Jeannot
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Old 06-22-2025, 04:15 PM   #658
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Frickin sold. There's some really quality in there with pops and Mews but it's Chaffe for Byram. I'll take it. Gives Buffalo some diversity.
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Old 06-22-2025, 04:17 PM   #659
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I would take that trade in a heartbeat!. I'd prefer Peterka but I'd like Byram too.
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Old 06-22-2025, 04:26 PM   #660
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Lebrun is reporting knights or kings for Marner with stars as long shots
Go kings go

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