06-22-2025, 12:55 PM
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#621
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Tavares is pretty much the only top-6 center left, right?
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06-22-2025, 12:57 PM
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#622
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Jets will be kicking themselves if Tavares goes to free agency, he would have been a better signing than Toews.
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06-22-2025, 01:00 PM
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#623
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Franchise Player
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Yeah but what are the chances he would sign with them
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06-22-2025, 01:02 PM
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#624
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
Ilya Solovyov is spending his summer in Belarus. He participated as an instructor in the Raubichi camp for kids. Before the quick tidbid they mentioned that Solo actually broke 4 panes of glass while playing in Raubichi the one year, which I find oddly impressive.
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Nothing earth shuttering, but I really hope either he or Kuzy takes that 3LD spot with the Flames, while both Parekh and Brz push on the right side.
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As a side note,CSKA Moscow, the same team that Okhotyuk signed with, extended its rights to Yan Kuznetsov about a month back. I'm guessing they wish things don't work out for him in NA, and he returns to the KHL.
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I have said it before but I hope the team makes room for both of them.
Kuznetsov-Weegar
Bahl-Parekh
Solovyov-Pachal
X: Bean, Miromanov
If there is ever a time for the Flames to open the floodgates on a youth movement, this is that time. Solovyov, Kuznetsov, and Poirier are not going to get much more out of another AHL season and the team needs to see what we have with these guys before walking away from all of the years that has been put into developing the players.
Having said that, Poirier's injuries likely makes him the odd man out.
Solovyov looked good in his short stint with Pachal. Weegar makes everyone he plays with look better and I think Bahl-Parekh could work out well.
Just say 'no' to UFA D signings.
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06-22-2025, 01:04 PM
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#625
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Icon
Jets will be kicking themselves if Tavares goes to free agency, he would have been a better signing than Toews.
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Perhaps. Toews was an incredible leader at one point. If he can regain his of his old mojo, he could put the jets over the top. Tavares has always put up good individual numbers in the regular season and fallen off in the playoffs. Toews' numbers have gone up in the playoffs.
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06-22-2025, 01:05 PM
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#626
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Seems like there's a decent change that two 80+ point players, Tavares and Duchene, may make less money than Toews, who has been out of the league for 2 years and was washed up in his most reason season.
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No chance Tavares makes less than 7 million. I think the Avs would take him over their Nelson contract. Anyways Winnipeg would be happy if Toews maxes because that means they won the cup.
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06-22-2025, 01:11 PM
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#627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Tavares is pretty much the only top-6 center left, right?
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Granlund is a 2nd line C. Since Sam "I ain't leaving" Bennett likely stays in FLA. That leaves a couple of players that could play middle 6 C in Giroux, Benn, Roslovic, and Suter. Though Giroux was rumoured to re-sign with OTT as well, and he played a lot of wing.
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06-22-2025, 01:18 PM
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#628
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolven
I have said it before but I hope the team makes room for both of them.
Kuznetsov-Weegar
Bahl-Parekh
Solovyov-Pachal
X: Bean, Miromanov
If there is ever a time for the Flames to open the floodgates on a youth movement, this is that time. Solovyov, Kuznetsov, and Poirier are not going to get much more out of another AHL season and the team needs to see what we have with these guys before walking away from all of the years that has been put into developing the players.
Having said that, Poirier's injuries likely makes him the odd man out.
Solovyov looked good in his short stint with Pachal. Weegar makes everyone he plays with look better and I think Bahl-Parekh could work out well.
Just say 'no' to UFA D signings.
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That would be very ballsy to go into the season with that D. Parekh and Kuznetsov will be facing the other team's top forwards on a nightly basis, and it would be pretty much impossible to shelter any D.
If Samuelsson really wants out of BUF, and comes dirt cheap because the rumours have him as a potential cap dump at this point. Then he would be a good fit IMO.
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06-22-2025, 01:30 PM
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#629
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Honestly, the Leafs haters will disagree, but Tavares is still an excellent player if put in the right role. Leafs did that exactly for years and his next team should keep him on the middle two lines. He works really hard, doesn’t have a spectacularly skilled game but scores a lot and when needed. He just should not be on a first line because of his lack of speed but he’s great on any championship team. Leafs should be very concerned about low balling him because despite the potential to sign for a discount, he’d be a fool to sign below Toews money because he’s far better. He’s still a $10M player to me, but you have to use him on a second or third line.
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06-22-2025, 01:40 PM
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#630
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Doesn’t the nhlpa have a problem with players accepting lowball offers? Isn’t it generally a no-no?
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06-22-2025, 01:57 PM
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#631
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
Doesn’t the nhlpa have a problem with players accepting lowball offers? Isn’t it generally a no-no?
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Yes but I don’t think they’re being pushed to the degree MLBPA does. Guys seem to sign for discounts every now and then in the nhl. Tavares said he wanted to be a Leaf for the rest of his career and apparently said behind the scenes it would be at a discount to help the team. But damn that Toews contract screws things up a lot.
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06-22-2025, 02:01 PM
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#632
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Yeah I totally understand a discount but this contract is almost half price. That seemed a bit more significant to me than a player taking 6 per year instead of 7.
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06-22-2025, 02:04 PM
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#633
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
That would be very ballsy to go into the season with that D. Parekh and Kuznetsov will be facing the other team's top forwards on a nightly basis, and it would be pretty much impossible to shelter any D.
If Samuelsson really wants out of BUF, and comes dirt cheap because the rumours have him as a potential cap dump at this point. Then he would be a good fit IMO.
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It would be a gamble but that is why you would run 8 D in the group. Bean and Miromanov would slot in to give Parekh, Kuznetsov, and Solovyov breathers and nights to watch without being sent down to the AHL.
Also, you could restructure the pairings to shelter guys if needed:
Bahl-Weegar (big minutes)
Solovyov-Pachal
Kuznetsov-Parekh
I do not think the Flames need to add someone like Samuelsson to block one of our young players from making the roster. If Buffalo was offering us Byram then I'd change my tune as he would be a core player going forward but Samuelsson is not that level of player.
Kuznetsov in particular needs a long look at the NHL before we lose him. He is now an unsigned RFA with a potential exit strategy to the KHL. Considering he was a 2nd round pick that we have now put 5 years of development into, never seeing him graduate to the Flames would really make me wonder why we bother collecting draft picks outside of the 1st round.
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06-22-2025, 02:07 PM
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#634
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I expect Tavares re-signs at 7M AAV
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06-22-2025, 02:16 PM
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#635
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Franchise Player
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Marner is considering taking a 2 year contract and wait until the cap rises considerably to get a much larger 8 year contract.
Presumably he might go to one of the teams with mega cap on a two year max deal as long as the offensive opportunities were there.
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06-22-2025, 02:20 PM
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#636
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
Jets will be kicking themselves if Tavares goes to free agency, he would have been a better signing than Toews.
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The Jets are trying to win in the playoffs, Tavares is a regular season guy.
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06-22-2025, 02:20 PM
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#637
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I expect Tavares re-signs at 7M AAV
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That would be a steal, as long as it's 3 years or under.
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06-22-2025, 02:21 PM
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#638
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolven
It would be a gamble but that is why you would run 8 D in the group. Bean and Miromanov would slot in to give Parekh, Kuznetsov, and Solovyov breathers and nights to watch without being sent down to the AHL.
Also, you could restructure the pairings to shelter guys if needed:
Bahl-Weegar (big minutes)
Solovyov-Pachal
Kuznetsov-Parekh
I do not think the Flames need to add someone like Samuelsson to block one of our young players from making the roster. If Buffalo was offering us Byram then I'd change my tune as he would be a core player going forward but Samuelsson is not that level of player.
Kuznetsov in particular needs a long look at the NHL before we lose him. He is now an unsigned RFA with a potential exit strategy to the KHL. Considering he was a 2nd round pick that we have now put 5 years of development into, never seeing him graduate to the Flames would really make me wonder why we bother collecting draft picks outside of the 1st round.
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If you can get an uograde at D at low to minimal cost, you have to do it. If it blocks a current prospect, so be it. Gives kuznetsov more time to ripen. If he bolts for khl, so be it. Second round picks are statistically less likely to make the show. Not every pick will make it, and given the trades we’ve made and draftees since we too kuznetsov, he’s likely further down the depth chart.
If a player in the age range that we are looking for becomes available and is an upgrade on what we have , you have to pull the trigger. If it upsets a prospect and they bolt, oh well. Draft another prospect.
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06-22-2025, 02:22 PM
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#639
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Jets are trying to win in the playoffs, Tavares is a regular season guy.
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Couldn't be more wrong. Tavares is a guy who's been consistent in the playoffs. He plays smart and hard. He's not flashy at all so it's easy to not grab attention but he's there and he tries hard.
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06-22-2025, 02:26 PM
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#640
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First Line Centre
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Would be pretty fun to have marner on a 2x14. Likely hurts the future though unless you flip him for a haul later.
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