06-21-2025, 10:23 AM
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Well no...there are most certainly instances where speech should be met with action. For example, if someone says, I'm going to attack you right now. You have a right to take action to stop that attack. You don't have to sit there and just take it.
Also, I most certainly never said that Iran's congress on holocaust denial was the only provocation. It was one of several mentioned.
Here's a question, how many missiles and bombs, either made or previously possessed by Iran, have struck Israel over the last 20 years?
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It doesn’t matter if it was one of several. If you’re saying it was a provocation of military action, you’re saying it’s justified to bomb a country that hosts holocaust deniers.
Should we get to kill anyone who commits hate speech? What other kinds of speech do you think should be met with violence? Verbal threats aren’t actually recognized as a valid basis for preemptive strikes or for assaulting an individual, so I’m curious what forms of speech constitute your personal list for who should die?
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06-21-2025, 07:04 PM
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#322
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Trump announces the US bombed 3 nuclear sites in Iran. There were earlier reports in the day in Israel that Israeli ground forces were attacking Fordow.
Who knows what will happen next.
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06-21-2025, 07:05 PM
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Well. Thats pretty much War.
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06-21-2025, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by starseed
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Germany has closed their Embassy in Tehran and evacuated all personnel.
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06-21-2025, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Well. Thats pretty much War.
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Nope... PEACE 
This giant piece of ####.
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06-21-2025, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by starseed
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Part of me is
"what's Iran going to do about it"
And another part of me is
"what IS Iran going to do about it"
Can Trump fight a two front war with Iran on one side and California on the other? Stay tuned!
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06-21-2025, 07:30 PM
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This timeline is just so very ####ing stupid
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06-21-2025, 07:35 PM
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Well, apparently Drumpf's definition of 'Peace' and mine appear to differ greatly.
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06-21-2025, 07:42 PM
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Good thing there is someone who’s sane and secure in a powerful position in the United States
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06-21-2025, 07:44 PM
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What is the age limit for Military Conscription?
Asking...for a friend...
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06-21-2025, 08:17 PM
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Iran really played it wrong by being so secretive with sites like Fordow and keeping the inspectors at arms length
That said, this is ridiculous that the US has attacked a sovereign nation. But also, #### the Iranian government. Everyone sucks in this.
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06-21-2025, 08:43 PM
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Looooooooooooooch
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Really wondering how Putin feels about this lol
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06-21-2025, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
Iran really played it wrong by being so secretive with sites like Fordow and keeping the inspectors at arms length
That said, this is ridiculous that the US has attacked a sovereign nation. But also, #### the Iranian government. Everyone sucks in this.
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Saddam Hussein tried the same thing before the invasion of Iraq. He denied publicly that there were WMDs (which was true), but still restricted access to sites to give the impression that he might as an attempt to scare off any military action. He called America's bluff and lost. I think everyone outside of American civilians knew what was really going on and the WMDs were just an excuse. The difference with Iran is that I do believe that they are trying to become a nuclear power. How close they are or were, and how close is too close, I have no idea. A good rule of thumb though, is that if you really want to have nuclear weapons, do not have "Death to America" as your motto.
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06-21-2025, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by belsarius
Part of me is
"what's Iran going to do about it"
And another part of me is
"what IS Iran going to do about it"
Can Trump fight a two front war with Iran on one side and California on the other? Stay tuned!
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What is Iran going to do about it? Isn’t the question the question is what is Russia going to do about it?
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06-21-2025, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
What is Iran going to do about it? Isn’t the question the question is what is Russia going to do about it?
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Russia may have too much on their plate as it is. They were unable to muster any response to regime change in Syria.
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06-21-2025, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
It doesn’t matter if it was one of several. If you’re saying it was a provocation of military action, you’re saying it’s justified to bomb a country that hosts holocaust deniers.
Should we get to kill anyone who commits hate speech? What other kinds of speech do you think should be met with violence? Verbal threats aren’t actually recognized as a valid basis for preemptive strikes or for assaulting an individual, so I’m curious what forms of speech constitute your personal list for who should die?
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Iran sponsored Hamas, Hezbollah and Housithis. They were doing way more than just speech. Palestinians may well had a state by now if not Iran brainwashing them into belief that they should go for the entire land and a destruction of Israel.
That being said, if in the center of your capital there's a clock that counts days until the destruction of another country, don't be surprised if that country might want to do something about it.
It's Iran, not Israel, that decided that the middle East is too small for both of us.
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06-21-2025, 10:09 PM
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Looooooooooooooch
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Did you see what Iran was wearing? They had it coming.
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06-21-2025, 10:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
Iran really played it wrong by being so secretive with sites like Fordow and keeping the inspectors at arms length
That said, this is ridiculous that the US has attacked a sovereign nation. But also, #### the Iranian government. Everyone sucks in this.
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Iran's proxy Hamas attacked USA's proxy Israel.. Then Iran itself attacked Israel, twice. This is the continuation.
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06-21-2025, 10:54 PM
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Wikipedia has a pretty good list of Iran proxies recognized as terrorist groups and are engaged in operations.
The countries/regions that they are active in are in parentheses:
Al-Ashtar Brigades (Bahrain)
Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq (Iraq)
Badr Organization (Iraq)
Hamas (Gaza)
Harakat al-Nujaba (Iraq)
Hezbollah (Lebanon)
Houthis (Yemen)
Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Gaza)
Kata'ib Hezbollah (Iraq)
Liwa Fatemiyoun (Syria, Afghanistan)
Saraya al-Mukhtar (Bahrain)
Here is a list of countries/regions where terrorist attacks or foiled attacks linked to the Iranian government have taken place:
Albania
Argentina
Bahrain
Denmark
France
India
Israel
Palestine
Iraq
Kenya
Netherlands
Sweden
Thailand
USA
Venezuela
This does not include al Qaeda attacks where funding or training came from Iran through their proxies, such as the Ryadh bombings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_a...ored_terrorism
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