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Old 06-21-2025, 12:22 AM   #481
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Dahlin and Monny can run they teams auctions for him!
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Old 06-21-2025, 12:30 AM   #482
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All three teams have some nice pieces....
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Old 06-21-2025, 05:35 AM   #483
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All signs point to this being the case.
We could end up having the best RD available, and at a premium.
The only "negative" is that his value is exponentially better if he extends, so finding a team he's willing to do that with is key.

I don't think thats Buffalo.
Weird, you would think all these great hockey minds would check in on CP and find out that Rasmus is going to rapidly deteriorate, is awful defensively and is maybe at best worth a late first and some rolls of tape.
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Old 06-21-2025, 05:49 AM   #484
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Would Utah want Andersson? We could add to get 4th, then send that to San Jose and 18th to get 2nd?
The Misa bros here would be something.

I don't see how an 18th pick added entices SJ to relinquish a talent like that though.

Unless they're actually not interested in another C and are looking at a D. But even then..
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I don't think Andersson is a big enough name to move the needle with a fanbase to get that high pick. Just me personally, but if a team deals a high pick these days it seems it would be for a big splash of a name.
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Weird, you would think all these great hockey minds would check in on CP and find out that Rasmus is going to rapidly deteriorate, is awful defensively and is maybe at best worth a late first and some rolls of tape.
What’s interesting is that at least one of these great hockey minds who spent last year railing against Andersson thinks we should be able to get 7OA from Boston for him and the last pick in the first round in a thin draft.

Totally makes sense.

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Old 06-21-2025, 07:48 AM   #487
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Seravalli said yesterday on The Big Show that he’d bet on Marner going to Vegas because he knows Marner was interested in them, but he’ll see if Vegas puts Pietrangelo on LTIR. If this bet comes to fruition, this is tough news for the Flames’ unprotected 2026 1st.
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Old 06-21-2025, 07:48 AM   #488
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It’s also one of those situations where Buffalo is so desperate to change their culture, do they take a chance with Andersson without an extension and try and sway him during the season with Dahlin and if they can’t extend him, then flip him at the deadline?

Buffalo I think would also be one of the teams that would overspend ($$) on Andersson in an effort to change their culture.

…I mean, the Sabres have to do something.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Columbus do the same, and with the Monahan connection, it could be a good fit. 14th overall for Andersson, who says no?
I think this thought that Buffalo has to do something has been there for years. I doubt that it has changed to the point where they would deal a top 10 pick for a player like Andersson at their age, contract status (even if he resigns, he won’t be cheap), and impact. I would say Andersson ought to fit between a 2-4 on the depth chart. I think there would need to be more than Andersson and I don’t believe 18OA in a weak/thin draft gives them anything they don’t already have.

All things being equal, if the Sabres do move their pick, they’re likely looking for a younger player with control. I don’t know, maybe Andersson + 18OA for Sammuelson + 9OA works? There’s talk of a buyout there, perhaps Buffalo would rather trade the contract and the Flames have the cap space and LHS D need. I’d also wonder if the Sabres would have interest in Zary if they have to move Peterka.

Columbus, I see a more realistic trade partner.

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Mark Jeannot had 3 more points than Kevin Rooney.

What exactly are we flipping him for? Teams are lining up for 13 point 4th liners?
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Mark Jeannot had 3 more points than Kevin Rooney.

What exactly are we flipping him for? Teams are lining up for 13 point 4th liners?
The NHL has been littered with players left for dead only to come back to life in a new situation. Seth Jones and Sergei Bobrovsky to name two. Matt Duschene is another.

If Conroy/Huska do pursue Jeanotte, I trust they have a plan in place on how to best utilize the player and have an off ramp as well in the case it doesn’t work.
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Trade down in this draft and get more assets for next year. This draft looks really really mid.
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The Misa bros here would be something.

I don't see how an 18th pick added entices SJ to relinquish a talent like that though.

Unless they're actually not interested in another C and are looking at a D. But even then..
He is saying he would pick up the 4th from Utah for Ras and package it with 18 for 2OA. It isn’t SJ who say no, it’s Utah.
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The Misa bros here would be something.

I don't see how an 18th pick added entices SJ to relinquish a talent like that though.

Unless they're actually not interested in another C and are looking at a D. But even then..
I meant if we got the 4th OA from Utah somehow. Then traded 4th OA and 18th OA, along with Mews or something.
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He is saying he would pick up the 4th from Utah for Ras and package it with 18 for 2OA. It isn’t SJ who say no, it’s Utah.
Ayy you beat me to it lol
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Trade down in this draft and get more assets for next year. This draft looks really really mid.
The problem with this strategy is the rest of the league is in on this secret too.

Outside the top 10-17, I’d be a bit surprised to see teams wanting to trade up this year.
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I meant if we got the 4th OA from Utah somehow. Then traded 4th OA and 18th OA, along with Mews or something.
If we got 4th overall why would we move up? Frondell, Desnoyers are just as good as Misa why would you add a kindel/Cootes/Reschny and Mews to get the same tier of player?
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I keep coming back to trading Kadri while he still has good value.

And I know, he has a no trade clause blah blah blah. I still think you have to at least ask him to waive. He is worth alot today and in a year or 2 is going to have negative value. He might be worth a 1st today, and in a couple years you would probably need to include a 1st to get rid of him.

This is the absolute best time to trade an aging player. This is also another reason why you shouldn't give no trade clauses to retirement contracts. Save those for players like Parekh and Wolf.
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I meant if we got the 4th OA from Utah somehow. Then traded 4th OA and 18th OA, along with Mews or something.
What would the Flames have to add to get 4? Word seems to be Utah needs size up front.

Posposil perhaps? That said, his concussion history is going to follow him around. Utah’s prospect pipeline is stacked, if anything it’s overflowing.

I don’t see a trade here that works. I don’t think Posposil and Andersson get it done and outside of that I’m not sure what else the Flames have to offer that Utah would covet. Picks/prospects? Would have to be something special or something they don’t have.
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I meant if we got the 4th OA from Utah somehow. Then traded 4th OA and 18th OA, along with Mews or something.
Or we keep 4 pick Obrien or hagens and grab cootes as well.
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I keep coming back to trading Kadri while he still has good value.

And I know, he has a no trade clause blah blah blah. I still think you have to at least ask him to waive. He is worth alot today and in a year or 2 is going to have negative value. He might be worth a 1st today, and in a couple years you would probably need to include a 1st to get rid of him.

This is the absolute best time to trade an aging player. This is also another reason why you shouldn't give no trade clauses to retirement contracts. Save those for players like Parekh and Wolf.
Let’s not rehash this argument again.
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