06-19-2025, 09:59 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
This guy was ppg last year and only gets 4.5?
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Also only had 1G and 6pt in 18 playoff games. And is 34 yo.
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06-19-2025, 10:00 AM
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#22
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
$12M+ is about right for a 25 year old three time 80+ point producer.
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Don't disagree. Dallas only has so much money to throw at wingers, and my guess is they are going with Rantanen and spreading the rest around for more physical players.
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06-19-2025, 10:05 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Is this deal better than the Frederic deal?
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06-19-2025, 10:10 AM
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#24
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Lifetime Suspension
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Lol Dallas.
3 goals in 37 games in the playoffs.
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06-19-2025, 10:27 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Lol Dallas.
3 goals in 37 games in the playoffs.
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The regular season points are still very valuable especially at this price point and the position he plays. The only question is how effective he's going to be on the back half of the deal.
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06-19-2025, 10:34 AM
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#26
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First Line Centre
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They're bringing back the same loser players from last year? They need a big change...
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06-19-2025, 10:45 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
That's Trent Frederic money.
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Outstanding.
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06-19-2025, 10:46 AM
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#28
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Rhett44
They're bringing back the same loser players from last year? They need a big change...
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I dunno about big change. IMO they have a very complete lineup, maybe the most complete in the NHL. They've also made it to the conference finals, for 3 years in a row. They just need that extra little something that can push them over the edge. A player that did what Sam Bennett did for Florida (not actual Sam Bennett, who would cost them $10+ million).
My guess is that they think Rantanen, with a little more time to adjust, can be the difference maker. They also had some bad luck this year with Heskainen and Robertson being injured. Both players did end up playing portions of the playoffs, but the team looks disjointed when they came back.
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06-19-2025, 11:00 AM
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#29
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
The regular season points are still very valuable especially at this price point and the position he plays. The only question is how effective he's going to be on the back half of the deal.
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4 points from hitting a career high in points. 34/35 yo season upcoming. Playoff choke artist.
Not sure what Dallas is doing.
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06-19-2025, 11:33 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
4 points from hitting a career high in points. 34/35 yo season upcoming. Playoff choke artist.
Not sure what Dallas is doing.
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Coaching had as much to do with the choke as the players did. DeBoer didn't get fired because of the goalie comments. The players lost faith in him. The regular season is half the battle and for $4 million you aren't expecting playoff Sam Bennett.
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06-19-2025, 12:08 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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I'll go against the grain and say bad signing.
Dallas is in playoff success or bust position right now; regular season only players are not what they need.
Spend the money on guys who elevate their game in the Spring.
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06-19-2025, 12:09 PM
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#32
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by blankall
After game 1, the whole Dallas team just laid over. Rantanen had 19 points in 13 games before going into the Edmonton series....3 points in 5 games. No big games.
The Stars had a big team that should have been leaning into Edmonton, but instead just rolled over.
Physical forwards like Benn and Marchment just took the series off. Dallas was brutal, without any explanation for why.
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Explanation can be inferred. Coach lost the room.
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06-19-2025, 12:19 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
After game 1, the whole Dallas team just laid over. Rantanen had 19 points in 13 games before going into the Edmonton series....3 points in 5 games. No big games.
The Stars had a big team that should have been leaning into Edmonton, but instead just rolled over.
Physical forwards like Benn and Marchment just took the series off. Dallas was brutal, without any explanation for why.
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My mind knows it isnt true yet it goes back to blackmail
DeBoer even made a point to not play them physically
In a rematch you usually expect a LOT more pushback and intensity from the losing team.
They folded even quicker and no star players had big games.
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06-19-2025, 02:44 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Rhett44
They're bringing back the same loser players from last year? They need a big change...
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They're doing what teams are supposed to do. They've built a stud core, have an amazing team, have given themselves multiple years of contention and multiple legit shots at winning the Stanley Cup.
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06-19-2025, 02:53 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
4 points from hitting a career high in points. 34/35 yo season upcoming. Playoff choke artist.
Not sure what Dallas is doing.
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It’s almost impossible to get a #2C on the market these days. If the Stars let Duchene walk, they’d be scrambling to find a replacement, and it would almost certainly cost more than just $4.5m a year in cash.
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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06-19-2025, 03:04 PM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
It’s almost impossible to get a #2C on the market these days. If the Stars let Duchene walk, they’d be scrambling to find a replacement, and it would almost certainly cost more than just $4.5m a year in cash.
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They have Johnston and Hintz. Hintz is a #2 they need to let Johnston fly and see if they have a star 1C.
Coaching was poor but it’s flawed team especially when your 2nd line is Duchene and Benn.
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06-19-2025, 03:08 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
It’s almost impossible to get a #2C on the market these days. If the Stars let Duchene walk, they’d be scrambling to find a replacement, and it would almost certainly cost more than just $4.5m a year in cash.
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All this is true, but it will still be a black hole in their lineup come playoff time at a key position. They aren't going to get over the hump bringing the same guys back time and again, especially the ones that under-perform int he playoffs.
The smarter thing to do would be let him walk and give an elevated role to someone like Wyatt Johnston and fill Duchene's money with a proper 3rd line 2-way center with some size and snarl.
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"You know, that's kinda why I came here, to show that I don't suck that much" ~ Devin Cooley, Professional Goaltender
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06-19-2025, 03:10 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
They're bringing back the same loser players from last year? They need a big change...
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Team has been to the final 4, three straight years.
Obviously they haven't broken through but that suggests they have a really good team with some players still on the upswing, plus a full year of Rantanen.
I wouldn't be so quick to throw that away.
You are so extreme in your opinions.
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