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Old 06-13-2025, 03:12 PM   #17041
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I'd guess (just a guess), that the Flames ultimately don't have what it takes to move up to #2. Andersson + Honzek + 18? I don't think Andersson + 18 does it.
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:17 PM   #17042
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I don't think the Sharks even consider an offer for #2 that doesn't include Wolf or Parekh.
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:21 PM   #17043
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For 2? Andersson + 18 + 31-32, + 54 + Zary + Mews.

I think that gets them thinking about it providing they believe Andersson will extend.
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:26 PM   #17044
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I dont see why they would trade 2 for Rasmus + quantity.




They have enough quantity in the systems already and they have enough assets to make an enticing offer while still keeping #2.
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I don't think the Sharks even consider an offer for #2 that doesn't include Wolf or Parekh.
The logic in me agrees, but I do think there’s other offers that make more sense for them now as well. I would agree that if Calgary pulled it off we should be electing a statue at the new arena.

I’ve said it all along, Calgary really wants one of the big centres and Miss has always been the top of their list. Comes down to SJ even considering it and then finding a price we’d be comfortable with.

I’m 100% sure both Wolf and Parekh aren’t going anywhere.
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:29 PM   #17046
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9, 10, 12, 13, 14 and 16 feel like the somewhat realistic options to move down
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:35 PM   #17047
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For 2? Andersson + 18 + 31-32, + 54 + Zary + Mews.

I think that gets them thinking about it providing they believe Andersson will extend.
There’s a lot of value in that package, and if I’m San Jose I’m pondering. Andersson brings a lot to them now and potentially down the road, and while there’s risk with picks and Mews, those three pre NHL pieces alone might bring them more value than pick 2 given the pieces they already have. That’s a lot for the Flames to give, but some of those assets are likely redundant.

Maybe San Jose can do better, but if Andersson would agree to sign there, that’s not a bad deal for either team.
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:41 PM   #17048
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If San Jose is actually trying to win now suspect Ras, Coleman, 18 and 32 will get it done. No idea if they want to win now or 3-5 years from now but that probably should be enough. Currently the Sharks are years away from being competitive but they are only 6 years into their tank job.
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:47 PM   #17049
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Old 06-13-2025, 03:50 PM   #17050
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31/32nd

What else could tip the scales??
2026 LV pick?
Prospect (Honzek, Brz, Mews, etc)?
Veteran winger (Coleman, Farabee, etc)?

I can't imagine what could be remotely intersting to them.
I think you'd have to try to move up to a top 10 pick first.

Step 1:

18 + 32 + Pospisil for 9th OV (Buffalo)

Step 2:

Andersson + 9th OV + Brzustewicz + Stromgren for 2nd OV

The big hole in the Sharks organization right now are offensive RH dmen.

Ferraro, Mukhamadullin, Dickinson, Wallenius, Cagnoni, etc are all LH.

They need RH d-men. Andersson and Brzustewicz fit the bill of what they need exactly.

That's a huge return for the Sharks to drop 7 picks but probably ends up working for both teams.

Flames can afford to move Stromgren and Brzustewicz due to their depth at wing and RH defense.

The cost to the Flames is: Andersson, Pospisil, Brzustewicz, Stromgren, 18, and 32.

Which is about the equivalent value of 3 1sts and 4 2nds ... which feels pretty close to the type of value it would take to get a 2nd OV pick.

I just think you'd need to 2 step the approach because moving back from 2 to 18 is a lot less appealing than from 2 to 9 for a San Jose team looking more for quality than quantity.

But a team like Buffalo I think wants some quantity to be able to use some 1st round picks as trade chips.

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I think you'd have to try to move up to a top 10 pick first.

Step 1:

18 + 32 + Pospisil for 9th OV (Buffalo)

Step 2:

Andersson + 9th OV + Brzustewicz + Stromgren for 2nd OV

The big hole in the Sharks organization right now are offensive RH dmen.

Ferraro, Mukhamadullin, Dickinson, Wallenius, Cagnoni, etc are all LH.

They need RH d-men. Andersson and Brzustewicz fit the bill of what they need exactly.

That's a huge return for the Sharks to drop 7 picks but probably ends up working for both teams.

Flames can afford to move Stromgren and Brzustewicz due to their depth at wing and RH defense.

The cost to the Flames is: Andersson, Pospisil, Brzustewicz, Stromgren, 18, and 32.

Which is about the equivalent value of 3 1sts and 4 2nds ... which feels pretty close to the type of value it would take to get a 2nd OV pick.

I just think you'd need to 2 step the approach because moving back from 2 to 18 is a lot less appealing than from 2 to 9 for a San Jose team looking more for quality than quantity.

But a team like Buffalo I think wants some quantity to be able to use some 1st round picks as trade chips.
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I think you'd have to try to move up to a top 10 pick first.

Step 1:

18 + 32 + Pospisil for 9th OV (Buffalo)

Step 2:

Andersson + 9th OV + Brzustewicz + Stromgren for 2nd OV

The big hole in the Sharks organization right now are offensive RH dmen.

Ferraro, Mukhamadullin, Dickinson, Wallenius, Cagnoni, etc are all LH.

They need RH d-men. Andersson and Brzustewicz fit the bill of what they need exactly.

That's a huge return for the Sharks to drop 7 picks but probably ends up working for both teams.

Flames can afford to move Stromgren and Brzustewicz due to their depth at wing and RH defense.

The cost to the Flames is: Andersson, Pospisil, Brzustewicz, Stromgren, 18, and 32.

Which is about the equivalent value of 3 1sts and 4 2nds ... which feels pretty close to the type of value it would take to get a 2nd OV pick.

I just think you'd need to 2 step the approach because moving back from 2 to 18 is a lot less appealing than from 2 to 9 for a San Jose team looking more for quality than quantity.

But a team like Buffalo I think wants some quantity to be able to use some 1st round picks as trade chips.
This would be fun to watch unfold.

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Friedman reporting that it will be hard for the Stars to keep Granlund with their cap issues. There are also reports online that the Rangers will be after Provorov or Gavrikov.
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To be fair I dont think Calgary is looking to target McQueen as their moveup draft pick.
I think Calgary is swinging for the fences and trying to get #2 for Misa.

SJ high on Andersson.
SJ looking to compete ASAP - Front runners for Marner.

But the hangup may be Calgary's pick(s) are so late in the 1st.
I would think the other Hangup would be if Anderson would sign an extension. It’s been said by some cp insiders that he wants to go to a team that can win now.
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I would think the other Hangup would be if Anderson would sign an extension. It’s been said by some cp insiders that he wants to go to a team that can win now.
SJ will be contending, ASAP, assuming they can properly utilize their cap space.
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SJ will be contending, ASAP, assuming they can properly utilize their cap space.
Well their backend is awful so they will really have to spend a lot of money on defence if they want to be good. They had 20 wins last season for a reason. Suspect they are 4-5 years away from being anything without some major, unlikely improvements on the backend. Dickinson will be a good NHL dman in about 4 years. Once they get 3 more they might have a NHL defence. There is a reason why they gave up 19 goals more than the second worst defensive team in the NHL last year.
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Old 06-13-2025, 08:03 PM   #17057
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Friedman reporting that it will be hard for the Stars to keep Granlund with their cap issues. There are also reports online that the Rangers will be after Provorov or Gavrikov.
The Stars have to still move something off their books regardless of them trying to keep Granlund or not.
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I'll play along in the crazy NHL25 deals:

Andersson at 50% to Florida for Samoskevich, 2026/2027/2028 1st, 2027 2nd (FLA), Ekblad's rights. Give Ekblad's rights to San Jose. San Jose can offer Ekblad a ridiculous 8 year deal because they've got the space to do so. Ekblad has already won his cup(s), may as well cash in on his retirement deal.

To San Jose:
18th OA
32nd OA
Honzek
Samoskevich
2026/2027/2028 1st (depending on which one Florida wants to give up with the Jones and Marchand deal, San Jose gets the other)
Ekblad's rights to San Jose in an attempt to sign an 8-year extension with him
To Florida: Andersson (50%), Thrun
To Calgary: 2nd OA (Misa/Schaefer), 2027 2nd (FLA)

- San Jose gets 3 1st round picks, can use those to bolster their lineup even more or trade up to grab the other Eklund in the top 10. Let's assume Ekblad signs an 8 year, 10m deal because San Jose overpays for his services, but they're happy because they get him at that deal. They shoot for Andersson next season when Andersson likely hits UFA (doubt Florida can re-sign him). They also pick up Honzek as a project and Samoskevich to enter in their lineup right away.

- Florida opts to release Ekblad to UFA, acquires R. Andersson on the middle pairing with Mikkola, and gets him at a very discounted rate in an attempt to 4-peat to the SCF.

- Calgary is self-explanatory, we offer a ton of draft capital to move up in a "weak draft", however, we grab either a franchise C or a franchise D.
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I don't think the Sharks even consider an offer for #2 that doesn't include Wolf or Parekh.
Probably not even Wolf, they already have Askarov.
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These proposals make me excited for draft day, regardless if we actually make any moves or not
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