2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I just don’t think it makes sense for the Canucks

Rossi is 23 and probably signs for $2.5 mil or more less than Pettersen. Minnesota might have to add a pick, top 10 prospected 1st in 2026 and I still think it is worth it for Minnesota as long as Kap commits to Minnesota this off season.

IMO Rossi does not hurt them rebuilding. If the trade Demko and Hughes, they could still be bad enough to make a run at 1st OV in 2026 and probably have a ton of picks and extra prospects in the system after the Hughes trade.

Could flip Rossi for a decent return too.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

https://twitter.com/user/status/1932074239122616568

What a stupid tweet.

"They had a deal except they could not find agreed upon terms to make the deal."

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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

What a stupid tweet.

"They had a deal except they could not find agreed upon terms to make the deal."

lol yeah that was my exact reaction too.

"Wanna trade?"

"Sure!?"

"Ok"

"..."

The end.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

What a stupid tweet.

"They had a deal except they could not find agreed upon terms to make the deal."

Sure but what I took from it is was that was Marner going to waive for Vegas? Seems like it if they had Vegas go look for the assets.

[Shazam]

Classic Tre.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Classic Tre.

I know. Happens to him and no one else, for sure.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I know. Happens to him and no one else, for sure.

Point is that Tre's near-trades keep making the media for some reason.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by indes

There are 15 players drafted after 18 out of the top 50 Cs (for points)

Player Draft Position
Brayden Point 79
Robert Thomas 20
Jake Guentzel 77
Sebastian Aho 35
Tage Thompson 26
Wyatt Johnston 23
Roope Hintz 49
Aliaksei Protas 91
Nick Schmaltz 20
Ryan Donato 56
Vincent Trocheck 64
Anthony Cirelli 72
Morgan Geekie 67
Connor McMichael 25
Brock Nelson 30

Guentzel is a LW, was playing with Point as his C, and Kucherov on RW for most of the season. Sid was his C before that.

Protas is a RW, playing with either Strome or PLD.

McMicheal is another LW with WSH, mostly playing with PLD.

Schmaltz mostly on the opposite wing of Keller centred by Hayton, or Cooley.

Donato played a lot of LW with Bedard as his C, but also played some C this year. Before this season, he had a career high of 98 face-off wins in a season, so he was largely used as winger throughout his career.

Geekie is another part time C at best. He mostly played with Zacha as his C, and had some time with Lindholm.

I think this brings the list down to 9, 3 of them are 2nd line Cs.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by indes

There are 15 players drafted after 18 out of the top 50 Cs (for points)

Player Draft Position
Brayden Point 79
Robert Thomas 20
Jake Guentzel 77
Sebastian Aho 35
Tage Thompson 26
Wyatt Johnston 23
Roope Hintz 49
Aliaksei Protas 91
Nick Schmaltz 20
Ryan Donato 56
Vincent Trocheck 64
Anthony Cirelli 72
Morgan Geekie 67
Connor McMichael 25
Brock Nelson 30

The goal if you want to be a contender is not to have a centre that is top 50 in points.

While a number are not even centres, how many are #1 centres on a contender?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Exactly, it would help the tank. We pick top in the draft, get McKenna or another top forward!

Kadri and Backlund are both excellent mentors. You can see how they've transformed the play of many young forwards.

I also think a lot of posters need to give up on the dream of a tank. I know the Flames not making the playoffs, makes everyone think they are too mid to succeed, but they also tied the record for most points without playoffs. In an 82 game season, they finished 5 points behind the Oilers and 2 points behind the Panthers.

The Flames are also a young team that is likely to get better not worse. Their presence brings more value than a decrease in draft position.

The Flames already traded their #1 center, #1 goalie, #1 RW (Toffoli), and several top 4 d-men. This year was the tank. Wolf emerging is not going to allow a legit tank. Injecting Parekh into the lineup is going to make that harder, as he fills a major hole on the team.

The Flames need an upgrade at centre, or at the very least another centre on Kadri's level. That's likely going to have to come from a trade or free agency, not the tank.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by indes

There are 15 players drafted after 18 out of the top 50 Cs (for points)

Player Draft Position
Brayden Point 79
Robert Thomas 20
Jake Guentzel 77
Sebastian Aho 35
Tage Thompson 26
Wyatt Johnston 23
Roope Hintz 49
Aliaksei Protas 91
Nick Schmaltz 20
Ryan Donato 56
Vincent Trocheck 64
Anthony Cirelli 72
Morgan Geekie 67
Connor McMichael 25
Brock Nelson 30

Out of literally hundreds of players drafted during that time frame.

You can find good players after 18 OA for sure, not a guarantee, but possible. You are really unlikely to get one that moves the needle significantly though.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by blankall

Kadri and Backlund are both excellent mentors. You can see how they've transformed the play of many young forwards.

I also think a lot of posters need to give up on the dream of a tank. I know the Flames not making the playoffs, makes everyone think they are too mid to succeed, but they also tied the record for most points without playoffs. In an 82 game season, they finished 5 points behind the Oilers and 2 points behind the Panthers.

The Flames are also a young team that is likely to get better not worse. Their presence brings more value than a decrease in draft position.

The Flames already traded their #1 center, #1 goalie, #1 RW (Toffoli), and several top 4 d-men. This year was the tank. Wolf emerging is not going to allow a legit tank. Injecting Parekh into the lineup is going to make that harder, as he fills a major hole on the team.

The Flames need an upgrade at centre, or at the very least another centre on Kadri's level. That's likely going to have to come from a trade or free agency, not the tank.

Were people picking the Bruins to be 4th last in the league or the Preds 3rd last? 76 points was 4th worst in the league.

SJ sounds like they are all in to get better. Chicago probably improves too. Anaheim already took a leap, but could regress too. But with the young players they have I bet they go up over go down.

There might be a new team this year. Vancouver could be that team. But it might be wide open to start the year for teams to get into the McKenna mix.

We don't need to be 60 point bad to have a chance

[Steve's Stick]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Sure but what I took from it is was that was Marner going to waive for Vegas? Seems like it if they had Vegas go look for the assets.

Yes, if the report is true, then Marner was likely willing to waive for Vegas, which means that there is a good chance he ends-up there this summer.

Vegas doesn't have much for cap, but that hasn't stopped them in the past and this is their kind of thing.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Steve's Stick

Yes, if the report is true, then Marner was likely willing to waive for Vegas, which means that there is a good chance he ends-up there this summer.

Vegas doesn't have much for cap, but that hasn't stopped them in the past and this is their kind of thing.

And they’ve already thrown the Pietrangelo news out there so it’s in the works for sure

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Steve's Stick

Yes, if the report is true, then Marner was likely willing to waive for Vegas, which means that there is a good chance he ends-up there this summer.

Vegas doesn't have much for cap, but that hasn't stopped them in the past and this is their kind of thing.

Vegas seems to be always a possibility, in this case can they free up the cap space

My guess he signs with the Sharks,

[dino7c]

Pettersson is one more bad season away from being the worst contract in the NHL

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

What a stupid tweet.

"They had a deal except they could not find agreed upon terms to make the deal."

Aren’t agreed upon terms what make up a deal? I think it’s the actual definition of a deal.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

And they’ve already thrown the Pietrangelo news out there so it’s in the works for sure

I could see them place Pietrangelo on LTIR, for the year, so that's $8.8M of LTIR + $9.6M of cap space = $18.4M total to sign Marner($12-14M) + 3Fs + Pietrangelo's replacement.

If they go for it, I could see Rasmus being the perfect fit at $2.25M or with a double retention at $1.1M. Unfortunately, I don't see any assets aside from Connelly and the 27' 1st.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I could see them place Pietrangelo on LTIR, for the year, so that's $8.8M of LTIR + $9.6M of cap space = $18.4M total to sign Marner($12-14M) + 3Fs + Pietrangelo's replacement.

If they go for it, I could see Rasmus being the perfect fit at $2.25M or with a double retention at $1.1M. Unfortunately, I don't see any assets aside from Connelly and the 27' 1st.

I'd stay clear of Vegas regarding Andersson. Like you mentioned they don't have much in terms of futures in return compared to some other teams, and I'd be hesitant to help them get better as we have their 1st rounder next season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by blankall

Kadri and Backlund are both excellent mentors. You can see how they've transformed the play of many young forwards.

I also think a lot of posters need to give up on the dream of a tank. I know the Flames not making the playoffs, makes everyone think they are too mid to succeed, but they also tied the record for most points without playoffs. In an 82 game season, they finished 5 points behind the Oilers and 2 points behind the Panthers.

The Flames are also a young team that is likely to get better not worse. Their presence brings more value than a decrease in draft position.

The Flames already traded their #1 center, #1 goalie, #1 RW (Toffoli), and several top 4 d-men. This year was the tank. Wolf emerging is not going to allow a legit tank. Injecting Parekh into the lineup is going to make that harder, as he fills a major hole on the team.

The Flames need an upgrade at centre, or at the very least another centre on Kadri's level. That's likely going to have to come from a trade or free agency, not the tank.

If they don’t have a stop gap after trading Andersson the defence will be young and worse off.

The emergence of Wolf won’t hinder the team sucking. Plenty of good goalies play on ####ty teams.

Teams below us have better young talent. Utah, SJ, Anaheim.

We don’t need another Kadri we need a legit #1C. Tier 2 centers get eaten up in the playoffs. Look at Dallas and Carolina. Both lost to McDavid and Barkov.