God I hope they drop that. I am sorry, but Rey is just supremely uninteresting. A whole movie with her?
Unless she gives up the life of the Jedi and joins an intergalactic Circus or something its just going to be boring as all hell.
Or 2 hours of her farming moisture or something.
She's just a lame character.
Last I heard they're already in pre-production on that one with a filming start date in 2026. So it looks like it is indeed happening. Personally I'm cool with this movie as long as it's a quality story. If it ends up being crap, oh well. Who cares.
Last I heard they're already in pre-production on that one with a filming start date in 2026. So it looks like it is indeed happening. Personally I'm cool with this movie as long as it's a quality story. If it ends up being crap, oh well. Who cares.
Yeah, well, the problem there starts with 'what is the likelihood of that' and continues on with...they had 3 movies to make Rey interesting and still couldnt manage it.
That is a paper-thin character that I dont think anyone is really invested in all that much. Maybe a stand-alone film might do that? They'd probably be better off just starting on something new and not dragging all of Rey's baggage along behind her.
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The only thing that could have save Rise of Skywalker for me is the ending being changed.
Rey burying the Light Sabres in the sand and that annoying old lady shows up.
Naggy - "Who are you?"
Rey - "I'm Rey"
Naggy - "Rey Who"
Rey looks out at the desert, then at the old lady as if she's making a decision. She ignites her lightsabre and a crimson blade crackles to life"
Rey - "Rey Palpatine"
Rey descends on the old lady with a evil smirk on her face. In the desert we see a Force Ghost of Palpatine appearing, he turns to the Force Ghosts of Luke and Leia and slowly raises his middle finger.
Palpatine - "Kiss my A44 Skyloser"
Then we see the original Title "Rise of Skywalker" but the Skywalker is erased out and replaced with Palpatine.
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I'm surprised some of you rate The Last Jedi higher than Rise of Skywalker. I thought both were utter garbage, with TLJ being worse of the two.
I agree.
The Rise of Skywalker felt like bad and rushed Star Wars content. The TLJ felt like.....something not Star Wars......maybe a parody? fanfiction? or an episode of a WB teen drama? Like an SNL mashup where the characters from Dawson's Creek are in a Star Wars movie.
The Rise of Skywalker felt like bad and rushed Star Wars content. The TLJ felt like.....something not Star Wars......maybe a parody? fanfiction? or an episode of a WB teen drama? Like an SNL mashup where the characters from Dawson's Creek are in a Star Wars movie.
I think at least there was some competency in the Last Jedi.
The Rise of Skywalker was a movie made in panic after the end of The Last Jedi.
I bet if you went to the round table at the start of the Trilogy. Palpatine wasn't even mentioned or in the script. They were counting on Ren to be the big bad by killing Snoke and enslaving the Galaxy.
Instead we got 2 hours of really bad fan service, with Palpatine being absolutely trashed. We got one of the dumbest space battles with even more fan service. Look there's Wedge, oh wait its the Ghost. We got a weak redemption story for Ren, and They blew off have the stories from the previous movie and paid one well known actress a ton of money to not show up for filming except for a 3 minute scene.
It was written as a fan service to Dark Empire, Mad Magazine and a AI based Star Wars Meme Generator.
Rise of Skywalker was a reaction to Rian the rogue director of Last Jedi.
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I think at least there was some competency in the Last Jedi.
The Rise of Skywalker was a movie made in panic after the end of The Last Jedi.
I bet if you went to the round table at the start of the Trilogy. Palpatine wasn't even mentioned or in the script. They were counting on Ren to be the big bad by killing Snoke and enslaving the Galaxy.
Instead we got 2 hours of really bad fan service, with Palpatine being absolutely trashed. We got one of the dumbest space battles with even more fan service. Look there's Wedge, oh wait its the Ghost. We got a weak redemption story for Ren, and They blew off have the stories from the previous movie and paid one well known actress a ton of money to not show up for filming except for a 3 minute scene.
It was written as a fan service to Dark Empire, Mad Magazine and a AI based Star Wars Meme Generator.
Rise of Skywalker was a reaction to Rian the rogue director of Last Jedi.
Yes. I've said it a million times and I'll keep saying it.
"But it didn't have to be."
Look. Across the street from Lucasfilm there is this pokey little studio called Marvel.
Now. What makes this little studio of plucky underdogs so special? Well you see...they planned out a 20 year timeline with, what 18 films? And stitched them all together.
Star Wars couldnt even pump out a coherent Trilogy because they had no framework, no plan, they just let everyone do whatever and let come what may.
Thats. On. Them.
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The Ben Solo scene where he fights the Knights of Ren after being redeemed is the only thing that elevates TROS over TLJ for me.
Otherwise, both utter garbage as you said.
And I didn't even care all that much about that, because there was zero development of the Knights of Ren, none, they showed up in a vision in the first movie, and then they show up in the last movie for about 4 minutes. There was nothing that made me think these dofuses in cosplay army in a rickity #### were a threat to anything.
Ben wipes them out and I'm like, this is like watching Hulk Hogan faces a jobber on Saturday morning wrestling.
It was like they put them in the first movie, forgot them in the second movie, and then said oh ####, what do we do with these dudes? Well I guess kill them off.
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TLJ is worse for me simply because it completely obliterates Luke as a character. The guy refused to strike down Darth Vader, the 2nd most evil person in the galaxy, because he was family and he still saw some good in him. Then a few years later we're supposed to believe he fires up his lightsaber while his nephew is sleeping because he senses a bit of darkness? So goddamn dumb, and we're not even touching the whole hermit bull####. Luke was such a great character in so many of the legends books, they had so many stories they could have pulled from, but no, Rian had to be edgy
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Everything about the movie was poorly written. But that sequence felt like an intermission from the blasphemous cluster#### for some inconsequential action figure fun. They ruined stuff i cared about. At least I didn't care about the Knights of Ren.
But also redeemed Kylo was cool and i wish we got more of him. His fighting style changes to a more graceful style from rage/aggression. That nuance was neat.
So, so much squandered with high budget garbage.
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I was thinking how it might be fun to see the story of a Sith that just isn't good at being Sith? We have seen bad Jedi, so why not a Sith that ends up doing good by accident. No redemption just a bad Sith.
It would fit the format for the "Tales " animated stuff.
Yes. I've said it a million times and I'll keep saying it.
"But it didn't have to be."
Look. Across the street from Lucasfilm there is this pokey little studio called Marvel.
Now. What makes this little studio of plucky underdogs so special? Well you see...they planned out a 20 year timeline with, what 18 films? And stitched them all together.
Star Wars couldnt even pump out a coherent Trilogy because they had no framework, no plan, they just let everyone do whatever and let come what may.
Thats. On. Them.
The fact they brought in two separate writing/directing teams for a trilogy and just let them both do whatever they want, without any obligation to consult with each other or write a cohesive story.....is.....well baffling in every way..
The Saga films should have been about Anakin/Luke. And that's what they were until Disney bought them.
The saga ended in EP 6. Done. Fin. Empire defeated. Emperor dead.
A new Disney trilogy could have been made that dealt with completely new characters and storylines with maybe SOME subtle fan service to the Anakin/Luke story. Trying to continue the saga was always going to be a disaster because you can't continue a story that is already finished.
I simply hate what they did with the Saga, but I love a lot of the other stuff they did (like Rogue One, Mando, Andor, etc).
Yeah they should've told a new story with new characters in a different part of the galaxy. At most a cameo or two strewn in. Then it doesn't retroactively tarnish anything if it turned out to be a dud.
TLJ is worse for me simply because it completely obliterates Luke as a character. The guy refused to strike down Darth Vader, the 2nd most evil person in the galaxy, because he was family and he still saw some good in him. Then a few years later we're supposed to believe he fires up his lightsaber while his nephew is sleeping because he senses a bit of darkness? So goddamn dumb, and we're not even touching the whole hermit bull####. Luke was such a great character in so many of the legends books, they had so many stories they could have pulled from, but no, Rian had to be edgy
To be fair to Rian Johnson, the idea of Luke being an old hermit living in seclusion who had cut himself off from the Force was an idea that came straight from George Lucas' original storyboards and drafts for the sequels.
You can still blame Johnson for everything else though, so have at it.
As revealed by The Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi (via Slashfilm), Johnson’s movie used many of the concepts Lucas first had in mind for Episode VII, specifically the story of an older, broken Luke training a young, Force-sensitive disciple named Kira (later renamed “Rey”).
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Lucas’ biggest contribution to The Last Jedi was the Luke/Rey story itself, which he’d originally planned for Episode VII, as confirmed by Lucasfilm Story Group member Pablo Hidalgo on Twitter (via Comicbook.com).
The idea played out much like what we saw in Johnson’s movie: Luke is down and out on a distant planet thirty years after the fall of the Empire. A new hope named Kira finds the old Jedi Master and they begin her training. We would have seen Luke struggling with his failure to stop the Jedi Killer (renamed “Kylo Ren”) from destroying his Jedi Academy.
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“[Luke] always had this potential dark side within him, being that his father was Darth Vader,” explained Lucasfilm executive creative director Doug Chiang of the character’s arc in the early days of Episode VII. “So he is really struggling with that. He ended up secluding himself in this Jedi temple on a new planet, and he’s just there meditating, reassessing his whole life. Gradually, over the arc of the movie, he rediscovers his vitality and comes back to himself.”
Eventually, Luke would have regained his mojo while teaching Kira the ways of the Force and rejoined the fight. That’s basically the skeleton of The Last Jedi‘s plot.
I was thinking how it might be fun to see the story of a Sith that just isn't good at being Sith? We have seen bad Jedi, so why not a Sith that ends up doing good by accident. No redemption just a bad Sith.
It would fit the format for the "Tales " animated stuff.
I would love to see them lay the Sith to rest for any future story. I mean frankly they completely butchered Palpatine, who was a highlight of the prequels, and completely ate the screen up in ROTJ.
The Sith line should have died with the end of Palpatine and Vader. I mean Ben wasn't a Sith, and bringing back Palpatine and just wrecking the Sith Lore was sad to watch.
If they do a Future Star Wars movie, leave the Sith and the Dark Side of the Force out of it.
If they want to do a early days of the Republic movie with the Sith, then make them an entirely different Sith like they did in the Old Republic books and Games.
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