2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I will say it looks like the tanking is paying off for the Sharks. They are getting close to embarrassment of riches especially after taking the 2nd best player in the 2025 draft.

The Flames could end up being the Sharks. The Sharks drug their feet attempting to stay competitive for longer than they should have.

[Demetric]

Regarding the Flames need for a number 1 C, here is how I see the rumored centers:

Tier 1
Petterson - risk is the large and long contract and his recent decline in play
Necas - risk, has not played a lot of center but wants to and apparently the reason wants to move (again). Also, only has 1 year left before becoming a UFA

Tier 2
Rossi - risk here would be his size being sub 6' albeit a thick 5'9" at 192 lbs

Tier 3
Pinto - risk, seems more like a Backlund type center than a number 1
Mercer - risk is has not played a lot of center and to date is a middle 6 player

The tier 1 players are likely requiring a trade that would look similar to the Tkachuk deal where there are a couple of roster players, prospect and a 1st. If this is what the other team is looking for instead of a more futures deal, which we should not be looking at. The players that I would be putting out there for this kind of deal would be:

Roster Players (2)
Farabee
Sharangovich
Anderson

Prospects like (1)
Kerns
Poririer

and then one of the 1sts this year. (the one from the Tkachuk trade hopefully )

The lower tier players would require less in the trade of course but the same assets in play.

All the teams involved are likely looking for a hockey type deal to stay competitive, with maybe the exception of Vancouver, as who knows what they are actually thinking.

We will see if any of these players are even moved and the actual cost, but I would think would be something like this.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The Flames could end up being the Sharks. The Sharks drug their feet attempting to stay competitive for longer than they should have.

This shouldn’t be overlooked. The Sharks didn’t tear the bandaid off until they’d been out of the playoffs for four seasons and traded a 26 year old Meier, and followed up a year later by moving 30 year old Hertl.

The Meier move in particular was an admission that they weren’t going to be a good team anytime soon, so best to cash in the player’s value and dive deep in the standings. If the Sharks keep those two around they not only lose out on the assets (Zetterlund, Mukhamadullin, Edstrom, 2x 1st, 2nd, 2x 3rd), they almost certainly don’t land Celebrini. They also don’t have as much cap space today to take a couple big swings.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Demetric

Tier 1
Petterson - risk is the large and long contract and his recent decline in play

If the Canucks make the mistake of moving him, it is going to be as maligned as the Neely deal in the long run. What ever team gets him will get a top 10 center in the NHL with potential to be top 5.

[Geeoff]

One thing is that Kadri has a NMC that changes into a modified NTC in 26-27, so it's not going to be easy to move him

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The Flames could end up being the Sharks. The Sharks drug their feet attempting to stay competitive for longer than they should have.

Did they drag their feet or were they stuck with players with massive contracts in a flat cap era and players with NTC that didn't want to leave?

They went to the conference finals in 2019

Burns traded 2022 with major salary retention
Pavelski gone summer 2019 - the next season
Karlsson trade summer of 2023 with major salary retention
Hertl trade 2023 trade deadline
Meier traded 2023 trade deadline.
Thornton gone summer 2020

Even though we had a major overhaul, Kadri, Coleman, Backlund, Rasmus, Weegar are all older than Meier and Hertl were when they got traded. Are we trading all these players? Any time I mention trading Weegar, people lose it. Is it dragging your feet to trade him, IMO he would get the best return of all our players.

San Jose got stuck with Couture and Vlasic, but neither are helping them win. We have Huberdeau that we are stuck with, anyone else could be moved.

[Shazam]

It wouldn't bother me if they all got traded.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Shazam

It wouldn't bother me if they all got traded.

If we traded all, I would be very happy. It's the best move.

If we aren't going to, option B for me is trading for a star. Sounds like this is the path they have chosen, still think they need to be aggressive, not be married to decent players and manage cap and assets and wait for the right players to be available and go for it. When you do, use players on the roster with lower upside and get picks if you can in the deal to keep the prospect pool and cap in a good spot.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Did they drag their feet or were they stuck with players with massive contracts in a flat cap era and players with NTC that didn't want to leave?

They went to the conference finals in 2019

Burns traded 2022 with major salary retention
Pavelski gone summer 2019 - the next season
Karlsson trade summer of 2023 with major salary retention
Hertl trade 2023 trade deadline
Meier traded 2023 trade deadline.
Thornton gone summer 2020

Even though we had a major overhaul, Kadri, Coleman, Backlund, Rasmus, Weegar are all older than Meier and Hertl were when they got traded. Are we trading all these players? Any time I mention trading Weegar, people lose it. Is it dragging your feet to trade him, IMO he would get the best return of all our players.

San Jose got stuck with Couture and Vlasic, but neither are helping them win. We have Huberdeau that we are stuck with, anyone else could be moved.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nhl...1146481/?amp=1

Sounds pretty familiar to me

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nhl...1146481/?amp=1

Sounds pretty familiar to me

Because GMs are always honest in what they say to the media.

Erik Karlsson - full NMC and having major injruy concerns, terrible production and $11 mil contract. Few seasons goes by, has 101-point season.... gone. 1st chance they got to ditch him they did.

Pavelski and Thornton were due to age and cap issues.

Meier and Hertl, they were both very young back then.

Burns - M-NTC 3 team trade list. Did not want to leave.

What choice did they have?

[Shazam]

I hope Conroy is also "not interested in a rebuild".

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Because GMs are always honest in what they say to the media.

So why not give Conroy the same grace. You can basically sub the Flames in any of these articles.

Sharks owner has been quoted multiple times about not wanting a rebuild. Grier said he wasn’t planning a long rebuild when he got hired.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/11/...on-the-rebuild

https://www.nhl.com/news/sharks-new-...uild-334813490

I’m sure Conroy would trade Huberdeau if he could as well. I also think Kadri would be gone without his NMC.

[Ped]

Cam Robinson reporting the Rangers are telling teams that K'Andre Miller is available.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Ped

Cam Robinson reporting the Rangers are telling teams that K'Andre Miller is available.

It's a big ol "who cares" from me.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1930712932024742373

He's not a difference maker.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

So why not give Conroy the same grace. You can basically sub the Flames in any of these articles.

Sharks owner has been quoted multiple times about not wanting a rebuild. Grier said he wasn’t planning a long rebuild when he got hired.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/11/...on-the-rebuild

https://www.nhl.com/news/sharks-new-...uild-334813490

I’m sure Conroy would trade Huberdeau if he could as well. I also think Kadri would be gone without his NMC.

I’m not criticizing Conroy. To this point he has done an amazing job

I also believe he will deal Rasmus at minimum. Maybe more

[traptor]

Whose better, haugue or miller

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by traptor

Whose better, haugue or miller

I'd take Hague just based on pure pedigree.
Miller also has a huge hardon for U.S markets, I've heard that Seattle is very interested.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

So why not give Conroy the same grace. You can basically sub the Flames in any of these articles.

Sharks owner has been quoted multiple times about not wanting a rebuild. Grier said he wasn’t planning a long rebuild when he got hired.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/11/...on-the-rebuild

https://www.nhl.com/news/sharks-new-...uild-334813490

I’m sure Conroy would trade Huberdeau if he could as well. I also think Kadri would be gone without his NMC.

I don't think the Flames have any interest at all in moving Naz unless someone were to really overpay. Conroy sees him is an important piece in that dressing room as well as on the ice.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by traptor

Whose better, haugue or miller

Hague all day

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It's a big ol "who cares" from me.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1930712932024742373

He's not a difference maker.

… are we targeting a roster exclusively made up of “difference makers”?