2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, but the return would be closer to the second PLD trade than the first. That is why I just think they keep him. Crazy how quickly they blew their center depth

I think a lot of teams would have interest if that's all it took. He had one bad season. He could easily get back to a ppg or better in the right situation.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Klapka becomes waiver eligible this year IIRC. He has never been through waivers thus far.


I will 100% agree that Mercer is the better player today. However, Klapka has some seriously good attributes and is trending towards being an absolute unicorn. For me, it is two things:


1) Klapka started playing like he was Tom Wilson last season. Small sample size, yes, but that's what he started looking like. I would hate to trade away Tom Wilson for a middle-six player.


2) Klapka had a great season in the AHL before last season - led the team in scoring.



I would say that based on these two consecutive seasons, I don't think that Klapka's scoring ability was simply luck or brushed aside as a heater that will never be replicated. Maybe that's all it was, but I know I would definitely hate to be the guy that traded that away. It is so damn expensive to get a big body with skill. Columbus just tied-up Olivier on a 6 year deal. If Klapka develops anywhere between Olivier and Wilson, that will really help the Flames down the road, especially in the playoffs.


I think NJ probably says no anyway to Klapka straight-up for Mercer - Mercer is the much more productive player, with room to grow yet. I just see him as a middle-six winger more than anything. Not a center, and definitely not a top-line player. I would rather keep my potential unicorn with lower trade value in my back pocket and see what happens, and if I do decide to go after Mercer, I would do it with other assets.

I agree, if we traded Klapka for Mercer we would have to add quite a bit and it could burn us. Rasmus for Mercer we would need to add as well. We also need to move out forwards too. Zary to me makes sense and we could get a decent pick back in this scenario.

Zary to me could fit into the same category as Frost and Farabee. A couple years ago, Philly signed Farabee to a bigger deal and bridged Frost. Neither player progressed and the return on 2 good looking young players wasn't very much, and way less than you would have thought 2 years prior.

Zary might progress but I see him losing big PP time to Coronato moving forward. I see Sharangovich as a better PP option too. Unless we move Coleman or Frost or Farabee, I could see him being stuck. Could go either way, but his value would still be high right now.

I also see Klapka pushing his way up the lineup and his contract should be much less than Zary as well.

Manage Cap - keep Klapka
Manage assets - Zary brings the better return
Intangibles - can't teach 6 foot 8 and Zary is just not a great skater.

Flames twice since 2019 were a top team in the west. Both years, the team that beat them made them look bad. Not since the Iggy days have, they had an identity. Never a fast team, never a big team. We need to look at the physical play and speed of our depth guys, this matters in the playoffs.

[gvitaly]

^ I could actually see Zary take Huberdeau's spot on PP1, as the main playmaker. Not sure who will rotate to the net front though. I love the way Zary thinks the game; Consequently, I really believe in Zary's ability to take a step and become a 70 point player. I just hope that the injury setbacks won't derail his career.

[Toonage]

Feels like we're over valuing Klapka a bit here. This is a guy who just and I mean just was starting to establish himself as a regular player at the end of this past season. 1L time aside, which isn't likely to be what he is, he doesn't have a large body of work. No pun intended.

[robertsfanatic]

Good points and along with Pospisil, I just feel like we need to hang on to our heavy players. It's a necessity for playoff hockey.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Rutuu

Sure...

...but with perfect hindsight wouldn't it be better to get rid of every single person he had a problem with and build back from there knowing the results the past few years?

Gut your entire organization for a 70 year old coach with a notoriously short shelf life who was going to be around another 3 years at best?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Sharks rumored to offer Marner 94.5-98 M over 7 years.

Ignoring the tampering aspect, I sure as hell hope the Flames stay as far away from this as possible - at $13.5 - $14M, SJS can have him!

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Feels like we're over valuing Klapka a bit here. This is a guy who just and I mean just was starting to establish himself as a regular player at the end of this past season. 1L time aside, which isn't likely to be what he is, he doesn't have a large body of work. No pun intended.

Yup, he looks like like a top six player every four shifts and that won’t be good enough to stick. Reminds me a little of Ruzicka

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Ignoring the tampering aspect, I sure as hell hope the Flames stay as far away from this as possible - at $13.5 - $14M, SJS can have him!

That would be a great deal for the Sharks. They need to sign Smith and Celebrini for 27/28, Eklund after next year and Dickinson after 28/29. They will be set up nicely if they get Marner.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I think a lot of teams would have interest if that's all it took. He had one bad season. He could easily get back to a ppg or better in the right situation.

I agree but that’s why I think he just stays unless the Canucks blow it up. They won’t get a better centre back and Hughes is definitely gone if they aren’t competitive. The trade also gets a lot harder July 1st

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yup, he looks like like a top six player every four shifts and that won’t be good enough to stick. Reminds me a little of Ruzicka

Guys with that size typically are slow to develop. Giving Klapka another look and a few more minutes ice time per game isn't overrating him. His contract should be cheap, and he deserve a look and has very little to no trade value.

Suggesting that Zary has what it takes to be the primary forward on the PP1 is overrating a player IMO. Nothing about his game says he will be that good.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yup, he looks like like a top six player every four shifts and that won’t be good enough to stick. Reminds me a little of Ruzicka

I don't think the Flames see it that way, my guess he is a regular next season.

Does he have consistency issue, yep probably.

All young players have that issue.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Guys with that size typically are slow to develop. Giving Klapka another look and a few more minutes ice time per game isn't overrating him. His contract should be cheap, and he deserve a look and has very little to no trade value.

Suggesting that Zary has what it takes to be the primary forward on the PP1 is overrating a player IMO. Nothing about his game says he will be that good.

Trading Zary to keep Klapka is putting a lot of faith in Klapka and I don’t think he is there yet. Coleman and Backlund could be gone soon enough and I’d prefer they trade Sharangovich over Zary.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by flambers

I don't think the Flames see it that way, my guess he is a regular next season.

Does he have consistency issue, yep probably.

All young players have that issue.

I think they will definitely give Klapka a go but I just don’t think he is a lock to keep the spot especially if he remains inconsistent.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Trading Zary to keep Klapka is putting a lot of faith in Klapka and I don’t think he is there yet. Coleman and Backlund could be gone soon enough and I’d prefer they trade Sharangovich over Zary.

Not really. Zary needs a top 9 role, Klapka can evolve into a top 9 or 6 but can also be an effective 4th liner.

Zary isn't a 4th liner.

It's not a Zary vs Klapka comparison straight up. AAV and trade value factor in. Other players in our top 6 factor in.

Klapka might have 0 trade value
Zary probably could land us a late 1st or be used in a trade to upgrade our top 6.

When I look at PP1, Huberdeau and Kadri will be on it with Parekh. Coronato needs to be on it. Sharangovich brings a weapon to the table that Zary does not. Our pp needs a net front presence too. Not sure Zary displaces anyone right now and at some point, current prospects and future draft picks will need a shot as well. Zary is not a difference maker IMO and if there is trade value there, I trade him trusting my scouts to replace him

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Not really. Zary needs a top 9 role, Klapka can evolve into a top 9 or 6 but can also be an effective 4th liner.

Zary isn't a 4th liner.

It's not a Zary vs Klapka comparison straight up. AAV and trade value factor in. Other players in our top 6 factor in.

Klapka might have 0 trade value
Zary probably could land us a late 1st or be used in a trade to upgrade our top 6.

When I look at PP1, Huberdeau and Kadri will be on it with Parekh. Coronato needs to be on it. Sharangovich brings a weapon to the table that Zary does not. Our pp needs a net front presence too. Not sure Zary displaces anyone right now and at some point, current prospects and future draft picks will need a shot as well. Zary is not a difference maker IMO and if there is trade value there, I trade him trusting my scouts to replace him

If Zary can bring a clear upgrade to the top six center position as part of a package then sure I’d be fine if they trade him but I’d keep him over Sharangovich who is a black hole when he isn’t producing. Flames have too much depth players between Frost, Farabee, Sharangovich, and Coleman. I’d rather they flip out the older players.

I don’t really see the point of trading Zary for a late 1st. You are lucky to get a Zary there.

[ForeverFlameFan]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1929951212033782184

[Jiri Hrdina]

These rumors of picks being available is a really telling sign about how weak this draft is.
I know some were disappointed (including me in some ways) that the Flames didn't get a higher pick, but honestly, this draft won't produce many stars in my view.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

https://twitter.com/user/status/1929951212033782184

Utah is far from contending IMO. Doing this makes little sense unless they're not enamored with the draft class. Also something tells me if they're going to do something like this, that they'll offer Marner big money.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

https://twitter.com/user/status/1929951212033782184

Zary and Coronato are Calgary's only players matching that description. I wouldn't want to trade Coronato and I think they would get much better offers than Zary.