Btw-- you know who else was labelled as a bit of a headcase and fell?
Matvei Michkov. He had his run ins with Torts this past season in Philly as well.
I think at #18- it's worth it to take the highest ceiling player available - even with his issues. He will fall but will he be available at #31-32? Will the Washington Capitals pass over him? I wouldn't take that risk.
These guys are just kids. Labelling them as headcases etc especially since they're from overseas is blowing things out of proportion. If we can draft Matvei Gridin at #28-- we should have no issue with taking Ivan Ryabkin at #18. We are lucky to even have the opportunity as he's had a not so great Draft Year and that's the only reason he's fallen out of the top 5 even.
And you know who else had bad skating? Matthew Tkachuk.
I see a player who is lethal on the PP and we need more of those. Adding Ryabkin to Parekh gives you 2 nice pieces for the future top PP1.
Btw-- you know who else was labelled as a bit of a headcase and fell?
Matvei Michkov. He had his run ins with Torts this past season in Philly as well.
I think at #18- it's worth it to take the highest ceiling player available - even with his issues. He will fall but will he be available at #31-32? Will the Washington Capitals pass over him? I wouldn't take that risk.
These guys are just kids. Labelling them as headcases etc especially since they're from overseas is blowing things out of proportion. If we can draft Matvei Gridin at #28-- we should have no issue with taking Ivan Ryabkin at #18. We are lucky to even have the opportunity as he's had a not so great Draft Year and that's the only reason he's fallen out of the top 5 even.
And you know who else had bad skating? Matthew Tkachuk.
I see a player who is lethal on the PP and we need more of those. Adding Ryabkin to Parekh gives you 2 nice pieces for the future top PP1.
He still does, too. Would not work on it.
Guess his amazing hockey sense and hands have treated him well!
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Btw-- you know who else was labelled as a bit of a headcase and fell?
Matvei Michkov. He had his run ins with Torts this past season in Philly as well.
I think at #18- it's worth it to take the highest ceiling player available - even with his issues. He will fall but will he be available at #31-32? Will the Washington Capitals pass over him? I wouldn't take that risk.
These guys are just kids. Labelling them as headcases etc especially since they're from overseas is blowing things out of proportion. If we can draft Matvei Gridin at #28-- we should have no issue with taking Ivan Ryabkin at #18. We are lucky to even have the opportunity as he's had a not so great Draft Year and that's the only reason he's fallen out of the top 5 even.
And you know who else had bad skating? Matthew Tkachuk.
I see a player who is lethal on the PP and we need more of those. Adding Ryabkin to Parekh gives you 2 nice pieces for the future top PP1.
I think their D-1 years can be compared, sure, but when you compare Michkov and Ryabkin's D+0 years, it's a different story. Michkov really should have been a top-4 pick because his D+0 year was also special (20P in 27GP in the KHL) but was picked at 7 because he only wanted to play for specific teams.
Ryabkin took a big step backwards evidenced by his lack of production, even in the MHL and VHL. He did decently in the USHL, which you have to give him credit for being new to the country and stepping into a team mid-season, but it's not like he blew his competition out of the water either. As mentioned by the scouts like Scott Wheeler and Berube/Allen from HockeyProspect.com, this kid is the hardest player to scout this year because you have what he could do a year ago in direct contrast against what he played like this year.
If I'm the Flames, I happily take him at 32. But at 18, I think we still can get a Centre prospect that has just as much upside but doesn't have the immense risk associated. Kindel, Reschny, Potter are who I have in mind.
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At #18, if you have the chance to take a potential homerun player even if there is high risk, I don't see a problem taking that chance. The back end of the 1st round is hit and miss anyway. I'd certainly prefer it to taking a player with average upside even if they are a lower risk of busting.
I am not sure how common Ryabkin is as a surname in Russia, but any chance he is related to former Flames 2nd rounder Dmitri Ryabkin? Just curious.
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At #18, if you have the chance to take a potential homerun player even if there is high risk, I don't see a problem taking that chance. The back end of the 1st round is hit and miss anyway. I'd certainly prefer it to taking a player with average upside even if they are a lower risk of busting.
I am not sure how common Ryabkin is as a surname in Russia, but any chance he is related to former Flames 2nd rounder Dmitri Ryabkin? Just curious.
For sure, I take the chance on a homerun, I'm just not sure Ryabkin is that guy anymore.
For my money, Kindel is the guy I'm really hoping the Flames can snag at 18.
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This is really funny considering how hard they were selling the decentralized draft last year lol.
To be fair Bettman never seemed like a fan and was always clear it’s what the owners wanted so they were going to try it out. But of course they’ll sell whatever they do hard, it’s the job.
I think they have the "top 40 going" and that's all. I asked who pays. Said the kid will likely have his agency pay but family paying their own. For some reason I thought he NHL paid for that. Also said they were told to not pick nose and moms to definitely wear panties.
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Just proves how little he knows about us and our needs. Cootes I can see at 18 but I have a hard time believing we'd take a winger in Zonnon with a potential high ceiling center like Ryabkin still on the board at Florida's pick.
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Just proves how little he knows about us and our needs. Cootes I can see at 18 but I have a hard time believing we'd take a winger in Zonnon with a potential high ceiling center like Ryabkin still on the board at Florida's pick.
Zonnon played C this year, and didn’t look out of place at all. Personally, I would be just fine with Cootes and Z.
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I don't think I can believe a guy talking directly to the camera like that. Way too well trained!
Yeah, like of course he is going to say that.
Has he agreed to share his medical records yet? There was a report a little while ago that he wasn't sharing his medical records which if true, is a big red flag.
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