I'm okay with Edmonton winning, here's why........

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I forget the quote exactly, but whoever says that if you need a novel to argue a point, it's probably a poor one.

I'll help you and your faulty moral compass out:

-they employ scumbags and criminals
-they're run by scumbags and criminals
-the owner is steeped in scandals and a creep who sues homeless shelters
-they broke the lottery system and shouldn't have the two players that carry the team
-they're arrogant and are surrounded by insufferable water carriers and apologists
-we're Calgary Flames fans

What more arguments do you need to say No?

[Royle9]

[midniteowl]

I'm ok with Canada's Stanley Cup drought goes on for another year and I'm ok with that drought continues on year after year if Oilers are in the final.

[Groot]

No matter if you see it as Canada's Cup this year, it never will be, it will be the cesspool Oilers Cup. And if Florida plays like they can, it won't be that either.

The Cup lives in Toronto. It's there a majority of the time.

Canadians Bennett, Marchand, Ekblad, Greer, Verhaege, Gadjovich, Reinhart, Rodrigues will all have a great time when they have their day with the Cup and bring it with them to Canada also.

[Josh]

Originally Posted by MikePatton

Everyone has a confluence of variables impacting their fandom and shaping it - I would say being a Canadian abroad weighs in more prominently for you under the spectre and auspices of an American ultra nationalism that vibrates through your every day in ways Calgarians only experience distantly as echoes.

You I would suppose are not surrounded by Oiler fans nor do you face the very real prospect of running into one at any moment out there in the world, leaving a cafe with a most decadent blueberry crumble at your lips, ready to bite into it and fill your heart with music, only to see a two-legged horror in a disgusting orange-blue Oilers jersey, throwing your inner sanctuary into tumult.

I will say I've felt more conflicted than ever before in cheering for a fan base that chants "USA! USA!" by virtue of the heightened antipathy I feel towards the USA, their leaders having challenged my national identity and contributing / falling victim to the illiberalization (is this a word?) of democracy that's germinating and spreading around the globe. Me, though, I am not okay with Edmonton winning - not emotionally - but I am accepting of its possibility. I will refuse to let it ruin my week if it happens, though.

Thank you for this response, yes I don't have oilers fans in my face everyday, I do see obnoxious "patriots" down here regularly. I guess I can also liken it down here to Oregon Duck fans (I went to Oregon State). I hate Oregon Duck fans, I find them to be some of the most obnoxious humans on the face of this earth and want them to win NOTHING......

[Inferno]

An American team can win the Cup for the next 30 years if the Flames can't win it for all I care.

Because the NHL has absolutely nothing to do with countries. It's stupid when Florida fans chant "USA" and it's stupid when Canadians call the last team based in Canada "Canada's Team". Canada's team just finished choking against Denmark at the World Hockey Championships.

[FlamesAddiction]

The only possible upside I see is that it should really light a fire under management and ownership to build something significant and make bold moves. Hopefully it would put to bed the notion that lottery picks don’t eventually get you there.

That’s about it though. Seeing them win would destroy my soul though.

[Ashartus]

Montreal, Winnipeg, Ottawa, OK. I could grudgingly be OK with Toronto winning. Never Edmonton though. Probably not Vancouver either.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The only possible upside I see is that it should really light a fire under management and ownership to build something significant and make bold moves. Hopefully it would put to bed the notion that lottery picks don’t eventually get you there.

That’s about it though. Seeing them win would destroy my soul though.

Them making the finals is adequate fire under said rears. Them making the finals should and will suffice as a motivator.

In fact, the blue balls of them getting close but no cigar because in the end karma won't allow it is rather delicious and I can live with it until their inevitable decline and demise.

They'll forever wear the horns of being that team that had mcdrai air dropped for them despite not deserving it and never getting the job done with two of the best talents the game has seen.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Ashartus

Montreal, Winnipeg, Ottawa, OK. I could grudgingly be OK with Toronto winning. Never Edmonton though. Probably not Vancouver either.

These two are the only one I'm grudgingly ok with winning, Montreal? No way because of their fans keep on saying how may Cups they have won. But seriously, the only Canadian team I want winning the Cup is the Flames!

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Ashartus

Montreal, Winnipeg, Ottawa, OK. I could grudgingly be OK with Toronto winning. Never Edmonton though. Probably not Vancouver either.

For me:

Winnipeg, Ottawa, Montreal(my dad would be pissed though) - Ok.
Toronto, Vancouver - I would rather they not.
Edmonton - Absolutely not.

[howard_the_duck]

I just can't get behind it.

The only good thing that could possibly come from an Oilers cup is it motivates the Flames ownership to pull out all the stops to win one themselves. We've got to almost be there already though now with 2 straight Oilers cup final appearances.

[CroFlames]

[GirlySports]

I don't care about Canadian teams... there's the Flames, there's everyone else, then there's Vancouver and Edmonton.

Edmonton fans made the Flames the most hate team in their own province!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Don’t worry guys, he’s just Joshing us.

[ben voyonsdonc]

[FanSince'01]

There are a lot of reasons why I absolutely in no way want the Oilers winning, but one that sticks out to me is that if they win the Cup, they as a fanbase will become infinitely more annoying and insufferable - whether you directly interact with Oiler fans or not on a regular basis.

Just think about all the Flames/Oilers games at the Dome lately and how the crowd there is half Oiler fans already and they haven't won anything yet. As a Flames fan: you really want that to get worse? Our barn should be our barn and home field advantage and I hate seeing games where it looks like a home game for the other team.

[Heavy Jack]

[WhiteTiger]

You can have whatever opinion you want, really...I'm just not sure why you feel the need to come to a rivals board and try to explain yourself.


Go wallow with the filth on HFOilers, where you belong.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

I have lots of thoughts (uneducated ones mind you) on the on-going debate around "building through lottery balls" like Edmonton. Regardless of what those thoughts are, seeing some posts that amount to, "hopefully if Edmonton succeeds it will help Flames management see the light, and try to tank for top draft picks". My guess, is the success Edmonton is having now, which will be amplified if they win, would more likely fuel less desire for an extended rebuild than maybe even exists today.

Edmonton winning (just like it did in the 80s, and just like TBLs success recently has for Florida) will spark a keeping up with the Jones' mentality from the Flames (if it hasn't already). That usually doesn't manifest in people playing the "long game" in any aspect of life. Taking a quick look over recent Stanley Cup Champions over the past decade, it does seem there is a 10 years or more cycle from when they had their 1 or 2 picks in the top 5 (drafting key players) to when that results in a Stanley cup win. Point being, I hardly doubt Flames brasses reaction to a Cup win in Edmonton will be, "ok, let's get even with them, for us and for our fans..................in 10 to 15 years". If anything it's going to fuel the how do we fast track this thing reaction.

Oh, and one last thought..................not ok with Edmonton winning, that's not a thing.