2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’ve heard that Marner has talked to Marleau about SJ recently.
I too see a huge fit there for him long term and lifestyle wise.
Not to mention a media break.

This x1000 can you imagine how much better his life would be

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If it comes down to just not being big on Rossi that's more than fair.

But the data shows getting a 2nd line C at that part of that draft is exceedingly rare.

Extremely rare? Isn't the middle of round 1 about 50/50?

For me, 50/50, at no cost, is better than paying full price for a guy that is not going to be the #1 you need, and yet will inhibit the team's ability to get that #1.

The 2026 draft is what we should be focused on, and acquiring Rossi dampens our likelihood of top picks next year, without solving our problems.

It is an impatient, and ill-conceived strategy, IMO.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

I'm a fan of Zary, but this isn't true. He was on pace for 45 points on the season when he got injured in January. I still agree that Zary has a high ceiling, and his 45 pace, growth and skillset shows progression, but Rossi is by far the better player at this point on really any evidence: pedigree, consistent growth, production. And he's played regularly in the NHL as a centre, which is still an uncertainty for Zary.

The risk is in his height and whether that limits him, particularly as we see Florida's big bodies wear down teams. I'd take the chance on him depending on the price, but the price would have to be right.

I meant before the 1st injury. And I wasn't referring to the season-to-date, but to a stretch of games where he was given opportunity and started producing at a fairly prolific rate. IIRC, when he was playing with Kadri and Pospisil.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Extremely rare? Isn't the middle of round 1 about 50/50?

For me, 50/50, at no cost, is better than paying full price for a guy that is not going to be the #1 you need, and yet will inhibit the team's ability to get that #1.

The 2026 draft is what we should be focused on, and acquiring Rossi dampens our likelihood of top picks next year, without solving our problems.

It is an impatient, and ill-conceived strategy, IMO.

Seems high, this center had a 60 point season at 23...likelyhood of getting equal or better at 18 is way less than 50/50

[stemit14]

These rumours are actually pretty good guesses for the upcoming UFAs. Marner would be smart to sign in San Jose - up and coming team with a franchise center already there. Treliving signing Bennett to a big contract is right in keeping with his track record of signing depth forwards in their late 20s to big deals after they have had big playoff performances (eg. Neal, Brouwer, Coleman). If Bennett leaves, Florida could probably afford to re-sign Ekblad. And they might be able to sign Marchand as well.

[SuperMatt18]

Marner to SJ makes the most sense from the non-contending teams to me TBH. Even more than Chicago.

Better city to raise his young family...check
Two High Potential Young Cs...check
Deep Prospect Pool...check
Tons of cap space...check

If I was a winger UFA that wanted to get paid, while also still playing with other good players then I'd consider SJ close to the top of the list.

Of course if a true contender like Florida or Tampa was interested that changes things, but in terms of those teams you're trying to project to be better, while also being in a great location, SJ is a great fit.

[Enoch Root]

2014: Thomas Chabot, Svechnikov (19th), Erikson Ek (20th)
2015: junk
2016: Logan Stanley
2017: Vaakanainen, Josh Norris (19th), Robert Thomas (20th)
2018: junk
2019: Thomas Harley
2020: Dawson Mercer

Hardly 'way less than 50/50'

[stemit14]

I think the two best options for an Andersson trade this summer are San Jose or Columbus. Both have young, skilled forwards so they can afford to trade one alkk on GM with a pick.

Trade A)
To Columbus: Andersson + 32nd overall
To Calgary: Sieloff + 14th overall in 2025

Trade B)
To San Jose: Andersson
To Calgary: Bystedt + 30th overall in 2025

[Knut]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think the two best options for an Andersson trade this summer are San Jose or Columbus. Both have young, skilled forwards so they can afford to trade one alkk on GM with a pick.

Trade A)
To Columbus: Andersson + 32nd overall
To Calgary: Sieloff + 14th overall in 2025

Trade B)
To San Jose: Andersson
To Calgary: Bystedt + 30th overall in 2025

????

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Extremely rare? Isn't the middle of round 1 about 50/50?

For me, 50/50, at no cost, is better than paying full price for a guy that is not going to be the #1 you need, and yet will inhibit the team's ability to get that #1.

The 2026 draft is what we should be focused on, and acquiring Rossi dampens our likelihood of top picks next year, without solving our problems.

It is an impatient, and ill-conceived strategy, IMO.

50/50 to get a player maybe, but not a second line center.
If it also comes down to your belief this team should tank, then you are going to be opposed to any move to improve the team's talent. Which is fine. But i see more than one path forward and think it's more interesting to discuss various options to acquire talented players.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

You’ve got to be in on Power if available. I’d much rather have him over Byram. Maybe they could trade Power for more value and keep Byram with Dahlin?

I’d easily offer up 32nd, Bruz, and Miromanov for Power.

Last I checked, Darryl Sutter wasn't their GM.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

2014: Thomas Chabot, Svechnikov (19th), Erikson Ek (20th)
2015: junk
2016: Logan Stanley
2017: Vaakanainen, Josh Norris (19th), Robert Thomas (20th)
2018: junk
2019: Thomas Harley
2020: Dawson Mercer

Hardly 'way less than 50/50'

I think you're missing a couple of players:
2014: Larkin(15), Sanheim(17), Tuch(18), Schmaltz (20), McCann(24), Pasternak (25), Kempe(29).
2015: That's the wrong Svechnikov. Barzal(16), Connor(17), Chabot(18), Eriksson Ek(20), Boesser(23), Konecny(24), Roslovic(25).
2016: Chychrun(16), Thompson(26)
2017: Norris(19), Thomas(20), Chytil(21), Oettinger(26), Frost(27), Tolvanen(30)
2018: K'Andre Miller(22), Sandin(29)
2019: Newhook(16), Harley(18), McMichael(25). Tomasino and Pelts could still turn into something.

Your point still stands, but there are definitely quality players to be found.

[Royle9]

Flames talk this afternoon also mentioned both Rossi and Bryam as targets, said Calgary will hunt for bigger fish and not UFAs.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Flames talk this afternoon also mentioned both Rossi and Bryam as targets, said Calgary will hunt for bigger fish and not UFAs.

Makes perfect sense, the Flames want to compete, but also want to stay younger.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You are one of the loudest proponents of the (overly-simplistic) argument that you can't win without top 3 picks.

Rossi is never going to be an elite #1 C. And giving up 1sts to acquire him now moves us further away from acquiring elite players.

BTW, it is not at all crazy to think that Zary can be an 80 point guy as well.

Thats not true, I believe you can win without top 3 picks. I believe the chances of getting those truly elite players like ala a Barkov is way higher in those top few picks. I also believe you need a couple of those caliber of players to win. But you can get them elsewhere it's just harder.

The flames aren't tanking so there's no point on dwelling on it. Maybe they'll luck into one through the lottery but that's just random luck.


Since they're not tanking for a top pick they're going to have to take swings elsewhere. I dont see why Rossi couldn't be an elite player. Hes 23 and put up 60 pts.

I agree, i dont think it's crazy to think Zary could hit 80 points one day.

[dissentowner]

All I know is I hate these playoffs and can't wait for next year.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’ve heard that Marner has talked to Marleau about SJ recently.
I too see a huge fit there for him long term and lifestyle wise.
Not to mention a media break.

San Jose just makes the most sense for him. They'd be able to pay him top dollar too

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

50/50 to get a player maybe, but not a second line center.
If it also comes down to your belief this team should tank, then you are going to be opposed to any move to improve the team's talent. Which is fine. But i see more than one path forward and think it's more interesting to discuss various options to acquire talented players.

I am not on team tank, and not opposed to adding talent, so don't put words in my mouth. And there is a lot of room betwwen doing this or being opposed to adding talent (and you aren't that binary).

I am saying I am opposed to using the 18OA pick because he isn't elite, and he moves us further away from picks that may result in elite talent.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think the two best options for an Andersson trade this summer are San Jose or Columbus. Both have young, skilled forwards so they can afford to trade one alkk on GM with a pick.

Trade A)
To Columbus: Andersson + 32nd overall
To Calgary: Sieloff + 14th overall in 2025

Trade B)
To San Jose: Andersson
To Calgary: Bystedt + 30th overall in 2025

The issue is Andersson signing long term with these teams, it would have to be part of any deal.

And considering Andersson's #1 priority is a CUP I'm not confident that he would sign in either place. However his family is very close with Meredith and Monahan so that could play into it.

[Vinny01]

Listening to the morning show today a lot of the talk was about the Hurricanes being a bit of a soft team but also how essentially they have a ton of cap space and no big contracts to deal with. I have been thinking if they could be the team who would throw $10M at Sam Bennett (if we believe the rumor a team is going to offer that)? Not sure why Benny would turn that down? Massive cash from a contender.


I also feel like both the Flames and Hurricanes would love to go back in time and redo the Tkachuk trade. The Canes should have caved to the Flames ask and the Flames should have pursued the rebuild type deal around Necas++. Hurricanes have been chasing a superstar for years and probably look back at their chance to get Tkachuk and regret not closing that deal. The Flames being in a retool would be better off with the mid-20’s Necas and other assets over the early 30’s Huberdeau and Weegar.