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Old 05-29-2025, 11:31 AM   #15461
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Ah. Agreed. Minny is probably asking for Zary + 18.
I offer Pospisil + 18.

Fax that #### over.
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I think the Flames would.
If the reported ask from Min is either Foerster OR one of Philly's late firsts, I don't think the Flames need to add at all.
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Old 05-29-2025, 11:32 AM   #15463
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I would do 18 for Rossi. No brainer.
Depends on if they move Andersson and if they can extract a similar pick in this draft for his return, for me anyways. Flames still need to have a good draft.

I don't know why pick 32 got laughed at for a return for Rossi. If what the Wild are seeking is true, a late 1st is what they want. And the Flames have assets to balance out any remaining value left if Minnesota isn't quite all the way there on 32 being the primary pick in a Rossi return.
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Old 05-29-2025, 11:32 AM   #15464
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I'd think if the $7mil contract is in the range Rossi's expecting, then the Wild are probably considering the offer sheet equivalent for that contract amount to sort out a trade anyway - 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks (or equivalent value players).
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If the reported ask from Min is either Foerster OR one of Philly's late firsts, I don't think the Flames need to add at all
Philly is an Eastern Conference team as well. There would be a cost, and the Wild know the Flames covet a C
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I think the Flames would.

Quick edit - I mean the Wild don't have to move Rossi this year do they? Arb eligible, maybe gets a 2 year deal but is there any amount that would be awarded that would prevent the Wild from holding onto him if they had to?
The Wild have been shopping him all year allegedly. Sure they don't have to move him but they want to.
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Old 05-29-2025, 11:36 AM   #15467
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I just don't think they are so eager to get rid of him that they'd just ship him out for nothing. Especially when they know there are teams out there that would pay up for him.

Also, in regards to pick 32, imagine the Flames couldn't come to an agreement this year with Coronato. Or Zary.

Would you accept a 32nd overall pick and be content with that?
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Philly is an Eastern Conference team as well. There would be a cost, and the Wild know the Flames covet a C
Yeah, true. But on the other hand, they aren't dealing from a massive position of strength considering they reportedly don't want to pay him what he feels he's worth so their bargaining power isn't the greatest.

If Philly's already balking at giving Foerster or 22 for Rossi and the Flames come in offering 18, I doubt Minny tries to pressure for more.
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32 and Pospisil can get it done in my mind.

18 is too much in my mind nvm adding.

Again, the Flames have assets all over that can balance out 32+ for Rossi's rights.
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32 and Pospisil can get it done in my mind.

18 is too much in my mind nvm adding.

Again, the Flames have assets all over that can balance out 32+ for Rossi's rights.
I agree with you about moving Andersson and using that pick for Rossi. I think that would be a great idea. Keep our current 1st round picks, get a plug and play C at the same time. Its ideal really.
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Apparently Mike Russo who is very much informed on the Wild have stated they have no interest in trading Rossi for a 1st round pick in this draft class.
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No thanks on Rossi for me. We have 2Cs in Kadri/Frost/Zary already. Rossi doesn't help us get a 1C in any way and we don't need more undersized forwards.
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I think the Flames would.

Quick edit - I mean the Wild don't have to move Rossi this year do they? Arb eligible, maybe gets a 2 year deal but is there any amount that would be awarded that would prevent the Wild from holding onto him if they had to?
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Apparently Mike Russo who is very much informed on the Wild have stated they have no interest in trading Rossi for a 1st round pick in this draft class.
Lotto protect LVs pick then and move it. I seriously doubt they regress next year anyways.
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Apparently Mike Russo who is very much informed on the Wild have stated they have no interest in trading Rossi for a 1st round pick in this draft class.
So if you're Conroy, and you are pretty sure Vegas won't regress, at least that much, do you try and convince them to take the unprotected Vegas 1st in 26? Too high a risk?

To Dammage's point above me, can you re-protect that pick?
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Depends on if they move Andersson and if they can extract a similar pick in this draft for his return, for me anyways. Flames still need to have a good draft.

I don't know why pick 32 got laughed at for a return for Rossi. If what the Wild are seeking is true, a late 1st is what they want. And the Flames have assets to balance out any remaining value left if Minnesota isn't quite all the way there on 32 being the primary pick in a Rossi return.
I just don't think this draft is very good. So I'd be more willing to give up picks to bring in younger players.
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So if you're Conroy, and you are pretty sure Vegas won't regress, at least that much, do you try and convince them to take the unprotected Vegas 1st in 26? Too high a risk?
No part of my rationale is this draft is poor. I think next year's draft is much better. I wouldn't offer any 2026 pick.
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I just don't think this draft is very good. So I'd be more willing to give up picks to bring in younger players.
I agree that this draft isn't good, which bumps pick value up as you've a better chance of at least milking something good put of it. I'm on repeat but my point stands that the Flames have assets to keep 18 and still get a deal done.

Lotto protect LVs 26 1st if needed.

And again with a potential Andersson trade, acquire the asset that makes Minnesota's needle move to get it done.
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So if you're Conroy, and you are pretty sure Vegas won't regress, at least that much, do you try and convince them to take the unprotected Vegas 1st in 26? Too high a risk?

To Dammage's point above me, can you re-protect that pick?
I think you can so long as prior conditions have been met.
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No thanks on Rossi for me. We have 2Cs in Kadri/Frost/Zary already. Rossi doesn't help us get a 1C in any way and we don't need more undersized forwards.
I think Rossi is better than either Frost or Zary.
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Would Minny do Rossi for Andersson?
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