2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Byram makes more sense than Rossi IMO. Byram can easily come in this year and get big minutes. Rasmus looks like he will be gone this off season and he played over 24 minutes a game.

Rossi and Frost are RFAs. Both will be wanting a long-term commitment, Rossi maybe would take a bridge but you need to trade significant assets to get him so the Flames might want the commitment.

Cost of Rossi is of course the biggest concern, I'm not even sure what it would be. The hypothetical cost to get Byram and Rossi in the example shared was Calgary giving up only Andersson and Pospisil which is why I was on board.

But you're right, there would instantly be a bigger logjam that would need be addressed as well.

Frost
Rossi
Zary

All RFA all requiring either 100% commitment or moving them.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Is Rossi even available I haven’t heard a single reporter say anything. Usually the Wild reporter has good intel on things not just Wild but the NHL. Is this just another David Pagnotta rumour ?

Also the Flames aren’t in a position to trade significant assets for an undersized center. If he comes at a decent price it’s ok you probably send Frost the other way with a pick.

[Enoch Root]

Everyone agrees Calgary needs more talent, specifically at C, that wasn't the point that was being argued though.

Also, I don't want more middling talent, clogging up the roster (we already have Frost, and Zary can play C), we need top end talent.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Is Rossi even available I haven’t heard a single reporter say anything. Usually the Wild reporter has good intel on things not just Wild but the NHL. Is this just another David Pagnotta rumour ?

Also the Flames aren’t in a position to trade significant assets for an undersized center. If he comes at a decent price it’s ok you probably send Frost the other way with a pick.

Rossi would cost quite a bit. Certainly more than Frost and a pick. Unless the pick was a first.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Rossi would cost quite a bit. Certainly more than Frost and a pick. Unless the pick was a first.

Plus, the contract. I would guess that Frost will get less money.

Frost should get money that if he pans out to be a 3rd liner, he will be paid appropriately. Rossi probably gets 2nd line money and will be a 2nd liner. I'd be ok with the 2, but we would need to trade Kadri or Backlund now to allow them to play and get better and gain experience

[Macho0978]

I wonder if a guy like Geekie is available. Tampa would take Rasmus 50% retained and Geekie is a year or 2 away from needing a new contract and 16+ mins a night.

2nd line potential IMO.

[traptor]

Frost was a cheap stopgap and insurance policy. Unless he really takes off next year (offensively or defensively) i can't see him being tied to this organization for long. He doesn't really fit a prototypical 3C role in my opinion.

He's just one of those guys that doesn't produce enough to be a bonafide top 6 C, but hes not defensive ornphysical to be a 3C.

There's still some runway for him to get there though, but I wouldn't be cementing him in the longterm roster and making other longterm decision based on him.

[Monahammer]

Frost has pretty good advanced stats. I'd be interested in trying him out with some pure offensive minded players before we decide where he belongs. He was playing a lot with Farabee, probably because of familiarity, but IMO they aren't actually well suited for each others lines.

Zary-Frost-Coronato
Farabee-Backlund-Coleman
Huberdeau-Kadri-Klapka

Something like that

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Rossi is good, but let's not forget he played about half his time with a top 3-5 player in the league this year.

One of the things they talked about on Flames Talk is how he did this while NOT playing with Kaprisov since that is what Erickson-Ek played with and both Kaprisov and Erickson-Ek missed huge chunks of the year for injury

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Is Rossi even available I haven’t heard a single reporter say anything. Usually the Wild reporter has good intel on things not just Wild but the NHL. Is this just another David Pagnotta rumour ?

Also the Flames aren’t in a position to trade significant assets for an undersized center. If he comes at a decent price it’s ok you probably send Frost the other way with a pick.

Lots of smoke about Rossi being available. Just google it and you will see tons of articles written about him possibly being on the move. I know you think Frank is not legit but the reason Rossi was discussed so much on FlamesTalk is because he is listed on Frank’s offseason trade board. (Andersson is also on the board)

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Is Rossi even available I haven’t heard a single reporter say anything. Usually the Wild reporter has good intel on things not just Wild but the NHL. Is this just another David Pagnotta rumour ?

I've come across a few articles but haven't seen the Flames mentioned.

ie: https://rg.org/news/hockey/marco-ros...de-market-buzz

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

One of the things they talked about on Flames Talk is how he did this while NOT playing with Kaprisov since that is what Erickson-Ek played with and both Kaprisov and Erickson-Ek missed huge chunks of the year for injury

Seems like Rossi played with Boldy when Kap got hurt. But his numbers were good with both, one or the other or neither.

Kap also was pacing for a career year when he got hurt. Rossi may have elevated his play as well.

Maybe Conroy should look and Rossi and Byram. It would be exciting to add both and Parekh for next year. Just think someone has to go and Frost is an ok player who shouldn't command a huge cap hit. Kadri has 1 more year until he loses the full no move. I wonder if they can meet in the middle this off season and let him pick. If Marner goes, Leafs could be in the mix.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Put me in the boat for adding Rossi and Byram. Wolf would never allow us to pick top 5. Which is great because we have a franchise goalie, not so great when you’re pursuing that franchise centerman.

[traptor]

Byram and Rossi would be great, but it all comes down to cost.

I also don't think either of these teams are interested in futures based deals.

Really depends on what the packages look like.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by traptor

Byram and Rossi would be great, but it all comes down to cost.

I also don't think either of these teams are interested in futures based deals.

Really depends on what the packages look like.

Agreed, but I think we have some reasonable assets that could be moved in the right type of deals:

Andersson
Coleman
Zary
Pospisil
1 of Brzu or Mews
Maybe Florida's 1st this year

If this collection of assets can be traded for those two players, then I think it's a winning situation. Not convinced it can either, but I really liked the looks of that three way we batted around yesterday between SJ/Buffalo/CGY, and that would leave us with a good pile of assets still remaining to target Rossi.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

One of the things they talked about on Flames Talk is how he did this while NOT playing with Kaprisov since that is what Erickson-Ek played with and both Kaprisov and Erickson-Ek missed huge chunks of the year for injury

He's played almost as many minutes with Kaprizov as with Boldy. About 50-50.
Those are his top two linemates.

It seems like Flames Talk doesn't look at actual stats.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He's played almost as many minutes with Kaprizov as with Boldy. About 50-50.
Those are his top two linemates.

It seems like Flames Talk doesn't look at actual stats.

I didn’t look at the stats but pretty crazy that Kaprisov would be his second most consistent line mate as he missed 41 games last year.

Is there a way to see how many of those 60pts were with Kaprisov?

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

What's the upside of picking up a UFA? Even if Byram is not better than Hanifin he can get you assets later.

I'm not suggesting a Hamilton trade either. Just suggesting trading from a position of strength to address a weakness.

Not so much an upside move as it is to fill minutes and not thrust Parekh into a role that's ahead of his development, per your concern on the post prior.

I'd be keener on a 3-4 year UFA overpay even if he doesn't factor into the long-term plans of the team than I would trading big assets to grab a soon-to-be paid Byram who's resume is IMO lacking for his next payday.

UFA would be kicking the bigger acquisition down the road when the team is ready to compete.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He's only going to be 24 at the start of next season. 2 months younger than Wolf, 3 months older than Zary, a year younger than Klapka, Bahl and Solovyev. So while he's got a lot of experience, his timeline is the same as a lot of the kids who people here think to be mainstays in the future.

Not an age concern, an acquisition cost concern.

If you can grab him for cheap, then go for it. If the rumored price is 1st++ then not a trade I'm interested in seeing the Flames make at this point.

[WickerChicken]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Not so much an upside move as it is to fill minutes and not thrust Parekh into a role that's ahead of his development, per your concern on the post prior.

I'd be keener on a 3-4 year UFA overpay even if he doesn't factor into the long-term plans of the team than I would trading big assets to grab a soon-to-be paid Byram who's resume is IMO lacking for his next payday.

UFA would be kicking the bigger acquisition down the road when the team is ready to compete.

Need to leave room for Makar to come home. One can dream.